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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I can barely keep track of who hates Hillary and who hates Bernie in this thread. It's becoming something of a circus.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"![]()
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Again. Do you really think one needs to hate Hillary in order to suspect, based on her political past and the huge amount of contribution money she's been taking in, that she's not going to switch gears and push for the TPP if she reaches the oval office?
edited 3rd Feb '16 4:42:58 PM by nervmeister
I doubt she'll agree to TPP outright, but I could see her agreeing to a deal very much like like the TPP if pressure isn't kept on her.
Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.![]()
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I can smell the bias from weeks away. You have no evidence that she would do this, only your suspicion.
edited 3rd Feb '16 4:54:35 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Probably Both.
I almost feel sorry for him.
edited 3rd Feb '16 4:57:26 PM by Demonic_Braeburn
Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.Why are Americans so Angry?
Surprisingly African Americans are the least angry group polled. I do wonder if our famous national sense of optimism will ever recover, or even if it should be allowed to recover.
edited 3rd Feb '16 5:03:08 PM by Balmung
After the US has come so far in negotiating the treaty I can't imagine Hillary will be able to bring herself not to sign the thing. Probably her preferred goal will be for Obama to shove the thing down Congress's throat before she take office, I'm sure she is using all her influence behind the scenes to make it happen.
I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.![]()
I'll back you up with some evidence.
I mean she could have changed her opinion, but still...
edited 3rd Feb '16 5:25:46 PM by Demonic_Braeburn
Any group who acts like morons ironically will eventually find itself swamped by morons who think themselves to be in good company.If you give her a big enough donation, apparently she'll let you put your arm up her back.
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You're right. Should've just stopped beating around the bush and started dropping links. Well I dont want to be left too far in the dust, so.....
https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career
https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?cycle=2016&id=N00000019
And finally....
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/election-2016-campaign-money-race.html?_r=0
I was trying to make the point that the knowledge concerning Clinton's sudden shift in opinion is prevalent enough that the notion that you'd have to be biased or a "hater" to suspect Hillary might not be entirely forthcoming about her (current) stance on the TPP is rather puzzling. But I see what you mean.
edited 3rd Feb '16 7:58:31 PM by nervmeister

Bad excuse.