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#110826: Feb 3rd 2016 at 3:59:23 AM

I think they were confused because she didn't call the """civil war""" by it's true name, the war of northern aggression.

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#110827: Feb 3rd 2016 at 4:05:06 AM

Cherry picking is pretty easy, politics students would have to have covered the civil war anyway, plus there's the possibility of people missspeaking, being tired, or even deliberately giving the wrong answer.

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#110828: Feb 3rd 2016 at 5:18:25 AM

Aggressive politics and swearing: Isn't that Rahm Emanuel's role?

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#110829: Feb 3rd 2016 at 5:20:00 AM

1812 has often been described as a civil war

Only in the sense that it was not, at all.

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#110830: Feb 3rd 2016 at 5:22:54 AM

What's the logic for 1812 as a civil war?

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#110831: Feb 3rd 2016 at 5:41:35 AM

it was also between native forces on each side, culturally the United States was still British as it had not developed its own independent culture yet and states like New England threatened secession over it

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#110832: Feb 3rd 2016 at 6:11:51 AM

Rahm Emanuel, that's the guy.

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#110833: Feb 3rd 2016 at 6:17:41 AM

Rand Paul has quit the race, surprising absolutely nobody. That brings the GOP field down to a mere ten candidates. It's almost small enough to fit on a single stage!

Also, Congress will be holding a hearing today on the Flint, Michigan water crisis. Oddly, they have invited few of the principals involved, making it questionable whether the committee is intended to help advance a resolution or be a political stunt. The one important person invited, the city's former emergency manager, has declined to come and is even refusing the followup subpoena. Perhaps they are concerned about the criminal probe that the FBI is launching.

edited 3rd Feb '16 6:29:19 AM by Fighteer

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#110834: Feb 3rd 2016 at 6:26:19 AM

I'm slightly surprised, actually. I thought Rand would continue, not because he had a chance or believed he did, but out of sheer stubbornness and obstinance. We can just count it as another way Rand isn't his father, I guess.

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#110835: Feb 3rd 2016 at 6:35:31 AM

I thought he'd continue until Kentucky, considering what he spent to change the rules.

I guess he needed to restart his senate campaign earlier than expected. Still, surprised he quit before Santorum.

Cue the Queen.

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#110836: Feb 3rd 2016 at 6:42:30 AM

[up][up][up][up][up] Just because two nations of the same culture are belligerents, doesn't mean a conflict between them a civl war. Though you could argue the war was nearly a civl war, as New England was almost ready to secede by the end of it.

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#110837: Feb 3rd 2016 at 7:02:03 AM

Trump is complaining today that Ted Cruz stole the Iowa election. Seemingly just because the results didn't match the polls.

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#110838: Feb 3rd 2016 at 7:04:15 AM

Donald Trump accuses Ted Cruz of stealing Iowa — and demands a new caucus.

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edited 3rd Feb '16 7:04:45 AM by Demonic_Braeburn

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#110839: Feb 3rd 2016 at 7:04:29 AM

I'm sure the British Labour Party feels his pain.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#110840: Feb 3rd 2016 at 7:10:04 AM

He should blame pollsters, not Cruz. Iowa was always gonna be fools gold for Trump anyway.

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#110841: Feb 3rd 2016 at 7:12:16 AM

I've been seeing reports that Trump failed to establish an early ground game in Iowa to get people to the caucuses and had to rush to get something in place; meanwhile, both Cruz and Rubio spent extensive time and built large networks. In the end, the polls don't matter as much as the people hoofing it to their caucus stations.

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#110842: Feb 3rd 2016 at 7:25:56 AM

I wonder if his ground game is any better in NH. It seems only the establishment threesome have spent any significant time in the Granite State....

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#110843: Feb 3rd 2016 at 7:28:04 AM

It would be really ironic if Trump's presidential ambitions were defeated by something as trivial as failing to put boots on the ground in caucus states.

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#110844: Feb 3rd 2016 at 7:29:38 AM

Trump should make a political promise of building a wall between his supporters and Cruz' and making Cruz pay for it

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#110845: Feb 3rd 2016 at 7:39:47 AM

[up][up]That's basically it: Trump has no actual campaign offices or delegate strategy. He's probably surprised to even get second.

I read of many of his rallies of hundreds having sign-up sheets in the back and only a handful of signatures.

Bense Since: Aug, 2010
#110846: Feb 3rd 2016 at 7:44:26 AM

An interesting set of statistics:

  • Jeb Bush spent the most in Iowa: $14.9 million, and received 5,165 votes (2.8%). That works out to $2,884 per vote.
  • Ted Cruz spent $6 million: $116 per vote.
  • Donald Trump spent only $3.3 million. He got the best deal, though he didn't win: $73/vote.
  • Marko Rubio spent $11.8 million, just behind Bush in expenditures: $273/vote

Democrats don't tally individual votes in Iowa, so you can't do a direct comparison, but Hillary spent about $9.4 million and Sanders $7.4 million.

Conclusion: The big money didn't win in Iowa, except on the Democrat side.

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#110847: Feb 3rd 2016 at 7:46:55 AM

I feel pretty empathic towards Sanders today because there is this small patch of unruly hair on the side of my head that just wont stay fucking put.

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SolipsistOwl Since: Jan, 2016
#110848: Feb 3rd 2016 at 7:47:56 AM

Donald Trump did very little advertising throughout the race until recently, because he was essentially getting it for free through the media. He admitted this himself, and criticized the media for it—they happily ran that, too.

Did anyone already post that Rand Paul has suspended his campaign?

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#110850: Feb 3rd 2016 at 7:49:48 AM

I've been seeing reports that Trump failed to establish an early ground game in Iowa to get people to the caucuses and had to rush to get something in place; meanwhile, both Cruz and Rubio spent extensive time and built large networks. In the end, the polls don't matter as much as the people hoofing it to their caucus stations.

Apparently Trump on his twitter was aghast at the fact that his opponents conducted polling themselves when after all, the networks did it for free. His campaign captain in Iowa broke with trump over the fact that Trump wanted to bar Muslim immigrants, because 9/11 was really an inside job.

Trump is such a rank amateur at this that this campaign is going to be the equivalent of the time he blithely bought land for his casinos, paid multiple times what the land was worth, then slowly had to sell them off or take them into bankruptcy in the following years when reality didn't match expectations.

Now if he drops New Hampshire too, both the popcorn and schadenfreude will be delicious.

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