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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#110326: Jan 31st 2016 at 1:57:16 PM

[up]Who did that, Trump or Cruz?

Edit: Stupid page topper.

edited 31st Jan '16 1:57:32 PM by LSBK

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#110327: Jan 31st 2016 at 1:59:18 PM

Trump did. He dismissed McCain's reputation as a war hero as being only because he got captured, and went on to add that he "doesn't like people who get captured". Not his greatest act of douchebaggery, but quite possibly his most gratuitous.

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#110328: Jan 31st 2016 at 1:59:31 PM

Trump, though with Cruz' recording of angering every Republican Senator it's not unlikely that he did something similar but just more quietly.

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#110329: Jan 31st 2016 at 2:38:20 PM

The dumbest thing about Trump's statement is that Mc Cain not only was captured, he had the chance to be released by the North Vietnamese but refused because he wanted the rest of the PO Ws to be released too. He endured years of torture because he wasn't going to give up his loyalty for a get out of jail free card. Meanwhile, Trump got a medical defferment to keep out of the draft.

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Matues Since: Sep, 2011
#110330: Jan 31st 2016 at 2:51:47 PM

@ The link several pages ago about the Satanic Church.

I've got to say I love those guys. They're probably the best defenders of religous freedom we have in the US.

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#110331: Jan 31st 2016 at 5:23:44 PM

I wouldn't go that far. They're a group of sarcastic atheists that like to thumb their nose at Christianity. Some of their intentions are good but most of it it just attempts to get statues of Satan put up.

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#110332: Jan 31st 2016 at 5:47:29 PM

and why shouldn't they? Christians put statues of that hippie up willy nilly, I demand they put statues dedicated to the God Emperor of Mankind up!

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#110333: Jan 31st 2016 at 6:36:54 PM

I like their style here, certainly. Yes, they're trolling in an attempt to be able to pick a court fight, but the proper thing to do would be to force the City Council to not have an opening prayer in the first place.

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#110334: Jan 31st 2016 at 7:02:15 PM

Well a little bit of respect for others beliefs wouldn't go amiss, for starters.

[up] Yea, opening prayers shouldn't be a thing. Moments of silence that allow for it are fine, IMO.

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#110335: Jan 31st 2016 at 7:25:26 PM

[up] I'm curious. How tolerant are Satanists of non Christians? How would they get along with a Christian who understands and respects their views?

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Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#110336: Jan 31st 2016 at 7:30:13 PM

They're just atheists who like to shit on hypocritical religious bullshit, so they're about as varied as normal atheists.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#110337: Jan 31st 2016 at 7:31:46 PM

Depends on the Satanist. Satanists are no more unified than Christians, really.

That said, Satanism itself is usually a poke at all conventional religions, but someone from a more conventional religion who treated a Satanist with respect should get the same in return. On the other hand, plenty of the bunch are religion-bashing in general.

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#110338: Jan 31st 2016 at 7:33:45 PM

There are some actually theistic Satanists, but I have no idea how they act towards other religions. Or if there are even enough of them to generalize like that.

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#110339: Jan 31st 2016 at 7:44:46 PM

Actual devil worshipper Satanists do exist, but are few and far between. For obvious reasons they don't get along with Christians. Also have a tendency to be teens that just want to piss their parents off.

99% of the time when you hear of Satanists, it's these guys. LaVeyan Satanists , who have nothing to do with Satan other than copting the name and applying it to their own beliefs, which is explicit Atheism, with some vaguely neo-paganistic beliefs attached. Their moral views parallel in some ways, the Sith of Star Wars fame, of all things.

""There can be no more myth of "equality" for all—it only translates to "mediocrity" and supports the weak at the expense of the strong." is an actual quote from one of their books.

Along with some Anarchism thrown in.

Outside their actual church structure, are plenty of members purely for religion-bashing. Any that want statues of Satan built are, Ironically, going against the grain of the actual "Church of Satan", which, itself, does not believe in him.

Honestly, if it hadn't started decades ago I'd think the whole thing was a spawn of 4chan. Deciphering the pattern of oldfags, newfags, cancer, and each pretending to be one of the other is similar.

edited 31st Jan '16 7:50:43 PM by Joesolo

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#110340: Jan 31st 2016 at 7:49:29 PM

They're basically selfish assholes trolling theocratic assholes.

I wouldn't give either group the time of day.

Oh really when?
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#110341: Jan 31st 2016 at 8:03:43 PM

I can't fault the guys in that article or trying to put statues up or whatever, because every time I've heard about them they've been acting in reaction to prayers during government business or the ten commandments up on government property or some such. So they're just making valid, if snarky, points about the First Amendment.

Matues Since: Sep, 2011
#110342: Jan 31st 2016 at 8:49:22 PM

The main reason I like them is that they show how many of the "Religous Freedom" laws were obviously made without considering that there are non-Christian religions; how they point out the customary preference Christanity is given in places it shouldn't.

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#110343: Jan 31st 2016 at 11:13:44 PM

Does the US not have a larg enough Jedi population to take up this fight?

Shit man, I just realised what the new trilogy might mean for Jediism. Still I doubt the Satanists can claim to have been as many as 0.7% of the population (down to 0.3% in 2011).

edited 31st Jan '16 11:16:31 PM by Silasw

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Nihlus1 Since: Jul, 2015
#110344: Jan 31st 2016 at 11:19:07 PM

It's like some people don't recognize that this country was built on Glorious Secularism.

edited 31st Jan '16 11:19:46 PM by Nihlus1

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#110345: Jan 31st 2016 at 11:32:28 PM

[up]

The argument goes, that if you're not completely atheistic you can't be secular, since the mere possibility of religious thought will make you an anathema for the separation of church and state.

I've met a few occult satanists. That was weird. They keep a very low profile.

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#110346: Jan 31st 2016 at 11:42:18 PM

That seems to be far stricter than necessary a definition, really. The separation of Church and State is generally to keep both those institutions out of each other's business, really, considering all the shenanigans that had gone on in Europe previously.

(Though I know there's many complaints about how effective that's been.)

Heck, you don't even need to really be secular to consider that concept necessary. I'm pretty sure there's debate on how secular/religious/deistic the founders as a whole were.

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#110347: Jan 31st 2016 at 11:55:49 PM

A website that basically tracks the policies of each of the candidates.

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#110348: Feb 1st 2016 at 12:53:25 AM

[up][up][up][up][up]Maybe they just decided that getting too het up about it would be Sithly passionate and went off to meditate instead.

[up][up][up]So the argument is that we need a religious test for office in order to preserve freedom of religion. [tup]

[up][up]Just from a practical standpoint, keeping church and state out of each others' business is good for most theists. If it's the reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915 in power and you're part of the reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1879, you're screwed along with all the rest of the heretics and heathens and non-believers.

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#110349: Feb 1st 2016 at 3:10:08 AM

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

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#110350: Feb 1st 2016 at 3:29:05 AM

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- George Carlin.

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edited 1st Feb '16 3:29:19 AM by Achaemenid

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