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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
The dislike for money is politics is something an incredibly large number of people in both parties actually agree on, something like 80-90%.
However, what those polls don't make clear is if they're upset about all money in politics, or the opposition's money in politics.
edited 23rd Jan '16 10:48:58 PM by Eschaton
Hillary Clinton is 'Obama 2.0'? That's a laugh. She's far more conservative and cynical than pragmatist Obama.
Has anyone been following the debates or town halls? Clinton has been espousing a much more conservative administration than Obama—especially in terms of foreign policy and criminal justice.
And that's without considering the $150 MILLION she and Bill have received from Wall Street since leaving office.
Overturn Citizen's United.
Set a flat Corporate Tax Rate of 15% with no funny loopholes or deductions.
He's willing to tolerate nation-wide Medical Marijuana but feels it's up to the states to decide.
He wants to keep Social Security and Medicare stable (but has espoused you should have the right to invest your Social Security account in the stock market)
He's said while he prefers Traditional Marriage only, he's willing to cede to the courts' judgement that nationwide Same-Sex Marriage is legal.
edited 23rd Jan '16 11:16:34 PM by PotatoesRock
According to quote an article online, he thinks affirmative action is ok. He also supports assault weapon bans, believes in a progressive tax, like social security, ect.
Leviticus 19:34He's reversed his position on assault weapons, actually, and wants to unban guns from military bases and recruiting centers. "He also supports national right to concealed carry and allow gun permits to be applicable to all 50 states much like a driver's license."
He also wants to scrap Obamacare in place of making the healthcare industry not have state restricted borders (basically turn it into a feeding frenzy survival of the fittest across the country among the insurance companies.)
edited 23rd Jan '16 11:21:13 PM by PotatoesRock
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"Big money loans aren't exclusive to Hillary"
We should just resign ourselves to blatant political corruption?
Besides, I was referencing not campaign contributions, but literal post-office gifts for speeches Clinton refuses to release even transcripts for.
Who's to say someone won't leak those tapes to the RNC before the vote?
Like I said.
Trump, sans his massive racism, is a fucking moderate Republican.
He would be a return to normalcy in terms of governance, instead of Tea Party clownshoery.
That's the only only up I can see to him being president, is that he'd move the Overton window, oddly enough, back to the left.
edited 23rd Jan '16 11:26:53 PM by PotatoesRock
"Sans his massive racism" is rather missing the point of him, the BNP and Nazis were (I love being able to refer to the BNP in the past tense by the way) moderates "sans their massive racism", remember Trump has spoken in favour of internment camps and his dad was KKK.
Cruz might not be a team player, but I don't belive he's going round anyone up and put them in internment camps.
You wouldn't have a functioning government because Trump would do what Hitler did, burn the entire national economy to the ground trying to bring about his dream of racial supremacy and purity.
edited 23rd Jan '16 11:37:00 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThe Nazis actually wouldn't be moderate even excluding their racism. It's entirely possible to be fascist without being racist. They'd still be a militaristic, totalitarian state bent on global domination with a cult of personality. Not very moderate.
edited 23rd Jan '16 11:40:51 PM by Protagonist506
Leviticus 19:34Moderate in the sense that they'd preserve a functioning government and entitlements for white people. I think the BMP always said that they'd support the British system as is, just with all the racial and religious minorities forced out.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyranedited 23rd Jan '16 11:46:03 PM by Eschaton
@ Protagonist506
It's entirely possible to be fascist without being racist.
This is the only time I'd ever side with fascism.
Anyways, I'm not sure if this is on-topic or not, but given that it was endorsed by Sanders himself, according to this
, I'll ask this here. Would The Big Short have been right in regards to how in bed politics is with big business and the recent stigma with immigrants due to finance?
edited 24th Jan '16 12:03:54 AM by HallowHawk
Well maybe I'm speaking too strongly when I say "entirely possible", but it is true that Fascism isn't in and of itself racist so much as nationalist. Of course, it's a very tiny leap to combine ethnicity and nationality-which is probably where the correlation comes from. For example, a hypothetical Fascist (but non-racist) American state could theoretically just consider black people American nationals and not oppress them any more than they do anyone else.
From what I understand, Fascist Italy and Spain weren't particularly racist. In fact, IIRC it wasn't until Hitler that the two became closely associated.
edited 23rd Jan '16 11:59:59 PM by Protagonist506
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Early Italian fascism, possibly. It was only after pressure from Nazi-Germany that they started deporting all the "undesirables". I think a Jewish community leader even swore their support for Mussolini, in the very beginning.
The Finnish fascist movement wasn't as concerned about race as it was national character. Although there were racists as well, and considering the lack of diversity in general it's hard to make any concrete judgements.
edited 24th Jan '16 12:04:37 AM by TerminusEst
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I'm a bit defensive over my dad, I'm sorry. Plus it's almost a quarter to one where I'm at and I'm losing focus over things.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?