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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#109376: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:07:13 PM

[up]Make that greater of three. Don't forget Ben Carson.

BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#109377: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:17:37 PM

It's possible that the country will be so freaked out by Cruz or Trump being the Republican candidate, that it hurts Reps downticket and causes a Democrat sweep in local elections, while at the same time, Bloomberg pulls votes away from the Dem president, resulting in a Republican president with a more Democrat Congress trying to block his every move.

edited 23rd Jan '16 9:18:01 PM by BonsaiForest

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#109378: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:18:43 PM

Right now, Ted Cruz is the greater of two evils when compared to Donald friggin' Trump?
Cruz is not known for working well with others. Trump might be a hyper aggressive Alpha, but he at least has pretenses of playing ball, with reason. Cruz burned a LOT of Republicans because of that shitstorm shutdoown of the Federal Government. It proved he was all about himself, without considering playing ball.

Again, with Trump, even if he's The Load, he'd at least keep things running, because "A Strong Man keeps the trains on time". Cruz just might shut down the government again out of spite. And again, a lot of the Donor portion of the party and big money types know Trump within reason that yes.

He is the more acceptable option.

With him and Cruz on the table, Trump at least promises to bring an era of consistent governance and big payouts for big business. Cruz might mean four years of the 2013 Government Shutdown looming overhead like the sword of Damocles.

That's why the GOP is beginning to circle around El Toupee.

resulting in a Republican president with a more Democrat Congress trying to block his every move.
Hardly. Trump's a fucking moderate in policy from what he's said, aside from his intense bigotry and racism.

edited 23rd Jan '16 9:19:50 PM by PotatoesRock

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#109379: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:33:33 PM

So at this point, it looks likely that Trump might become President?

Does this mean I should move to Mexico with my dad? Because my dad is leaving for his home country if Trump wins.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#109380: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:34:48 PM

Trump will be dead before his first month in office.

But I'd still consider leaving. Things aren't gonna be pretty here for a looong time.

Oh really when?
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#109381: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:36:28 PM

Trump will tell you it's his way or the highway, but when push comes to shove, he'll cut a deal. Cruz says that, and means it.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#109382: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:37:03 PM

I just hope Trump ends up dropping out. I'm close to praying to God just to make him drop out.

Then again, he'll probably only last one term at best, if he even finishes it without impeachment.

Seriously, I'm freaking out at this moment. I really don't want to move out of the country if he wins. I'm scared.

edited 23rd Jan '16 9:42:50 PM by AdricDePsycho

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#109383: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:49:05 PM

Garcon, would you stop saying Trump's gonna get assassinated? It's getting disturbing at this point. Assassinations of presidents in any case tend to be a pretty terrible thing.

Anyway, I'd also discount Carson because of the very sudden drop off of attention. I haven't heard anything substantial about him in like three weeks.

And yeah, Cruz has pissed off a lot of his own party. If you can't work with your own team, it's highly unlikely you can work with the other guys.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#109384: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:50:18 PM

Can you really expect Trump to survive a full term if he gets elected with a full Republican congress?

I'm not saying it's gonna solve problems but I can't possibly see him living.

Oh really when?
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#109385: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:52:18 PM

Moving on from that, I'm legitimately freaking out over Trump possibly being able to win.

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Shawnsummer7 Since: Jan, 2016 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#109386: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:52:51 PM

Hopefully, and I'm confident, that there are enough goodhearted people in the United States that Trump will get blown out on Election Day. I would also hope that even if he isn't the nominee, Dems would support whoever the Democratic nominee is whether it be Hillary or Bernie, because they'd be so much better than any of the Republicans.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#109387: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:53:52 PM

Yes, yes I can. First off, presidential assassinations in this country is rare. Second, most attempts are actually from people who have mental problems, and not for political reasons. Third, IT'S GETTING FUCKING DISTURBING THAT YOU KEEP SAYING IT. With conviction, no less. It's not funny or insightful. It's not even adding anything useful to the conversation. It's just getting more and more fucking obnoxious.

edited 23rd Jan '16 9:54:25 PM by AceofSpades

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#109388: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:54:02 PM

I'm thinking that many registered Republicans are probably gonna vote against Trump if he ends up making it to Election Day.

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#109389: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:54:05 PM

Unless Bloomberg comes waltzing in, then the Republican wins due to ratfucking and vote-splitting among Dems.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#109390: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:54:29 PM

Who is this Bloomberg person?

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#109391: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:54:33 PM

Barring some unprecedented economic/military disaster; Trump isn't winning. You'd need a near total collapse in Dem voter turnout and Trump is already causing demographics that favor the Dems to register en masse. Trump's supporters may be angry and motivated but they can't win the White House alone. And polls show that 20%-33% of registered Republicans would have serious reservations about voting for the Donald anyway.

[up]Former mayor of New York City, big time media kingpin. Socially liberal but economically conservative. He's worth over 40 billion, so he could fund his own campaign Trump style.

edited 23rd Jan '16 9:56:09 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#109392: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:55:46 PM

Well that makes me more comfortable then.

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#109393: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:55:51 PM

I doubt any on the the Democratic side would vote for Trump. At worst, if they don't like the dem candidate, they wouldn't vote, and that's a problem on both sides. Seems like a lot of Republican voters just wouldn't vote if Trump got the nomination.

This seems like a year that the swing voters will be pretty important maybe?

Bloomberg; is a Republican and former new York mayor.

edited 23rd Jan '16 9:56:36 PM by AceofSpades

Mopman43 Since: Nov, 2013
#109394: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:56:21 PM

[up][up][up][up]Former mayor of New York City.

Edit: [nja]

edited 23rd Jan '16 9:57:02 PM by Mopman43

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#109395: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:56:55 PM

I can tell you that the majority of the Latino vote isn't gonna vote for Trump. After what he said about Mexicans, they're all gonna vote against him.

edited 23rd Jan '16 9:57:13 PM by AdricDePsycho

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Mopman43 Since: Nov, 2013
#109396: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:58:12 PM

The biggest worry would be Bloomberg splitting the vote. But, if he doesn't try to run, then I don't think there is any candidate on the Republican side who could take the election. Everybody is either crazy or boring.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#109397: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:59:14 PM

Bloomberg better not run if that means risking Trump becoming President.

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#109398: Jan 23rd 2016 at 9:59:58 PM

Who is this Bloomberg person?
Former Republican-Independent Mayor of New York City. Considered a respectable guy among moderate/centrist Democrats. Would draw votes from both aisles as being the "Sound, Mature Candidate" if faced with a Sanders/Trump General.

He'd draw more Dem votes, thus ratfucking Dems in states they'd easily landslide Trump in. Ergo, President Trump.

And Bloomberg's more or less stated he plans to run for President if Sanders becomes the Dem Nominee, to keep the country out of the hands of both whacko birds (Sanders and Trump)

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#109399: Jan 23rd 2016 at 10:01:13 PM

Exactly, Trump lost the White House with that first speech where he called Mexicans rapists. Trump did more for the cause of Latino political engagement with one speech that an activist could do in a decade.

On another note, Bloomberg mulled running in the last two presidential races as well. It never amounted to anything, not even an exploratory committee.

[up]Bloomberg isn't stupid, he knows that would only give the election to the GOP. And he considers their positions on social issues to be absolute deal breakers.

edited 23rd Jan '16 10:02:38 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#109400: Jan 23rd 2016 at 10:01:22 PM

Whelp, I can't believe I'm saying this...but now I hope Clinton gets the nomination.

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