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#108876: Jan 15th 2016 at 4:09:44 PM

[up]X4 The executive is drawn (or at least lead) from the legislative. So the party that controls congress (well the House) would control the presidency, sept instead of a president you'd just have the the speaker of the house have all the president's powers. Also the cabinet would normally be made up of congressmen and senators instead of people from outside.

[up]X3 It is, but it's also at least in part a false punchline and frankly kinda shitty to make fun of a topic that people are banned from defending.

[up] The number of house seats is based on population, it's just control that is gerrymandered.

edited 15th Jan '16 4:12:13 PM by Silasw

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#108877: Jan 15th 2016 at 4:12:08 PM

In a Parliamentary system, you vote for a party, not a specific individual. Representation is then awarded on the basis of the proportion of votes that each party earns, both per-district and nationally. The leader of the winning party (or of the winning coalition if no party takes a majority) then becomes the executive.

An advantage of our system is that it is possible, indeed likely, for the legislative and executive winners to be from different parties, meaning that one party can't run roughshod over the country with a simple majority.

edited 15th Jan '16 4:14:22 PM by Fighteer

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#108878: Jan 15th 2016 at 4:14:05 PM

In a Parliamentary system, you vote for a party, not a specific individual.

The birthplace of parliamentary democracy (the UK) would like to have words with you about this. We still use first past the post and single member geographical constituencies.

This is just like when crash course tried to call the UK a republic...

What your talking about is a proportionally representative system, that's nothing to do with if you have a Parliment or not.

edited 15th Jan '16 4:15:00 PM by Silasw

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#108879: Jan 15th 2016 at 4:14:56 PM

Grr. Well, perhaps I'm confusing the voting method with the way the government is formed. Enlighten me about the distinction.

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#108880: Jan 15th 2016 at 4:16:40 PM

All I know is that Gamergate launched off the messy end of an unhealthy relationship, and that some downright socipathic/vindictive sub-groups can be found on both sides of the issue.

By god, I got [nja]-ed well into the next page.

edited 15th Jan '16 4:18:22 PM by nervmeister

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#108881: Jan 15th 2016 at 4:19:40 PM

A voting system is how you elect representatives, so that proportionally like you're talking about (proportion representation or PR) or first past the post like the US and UK use, or sometimes mixed systems or even no system at all.

Then you have a government form, a Parliment means power is concentrated in the legislative branch who then from within pick the executive branch (so the speaker has the power of the president), a presidency means you've got split powers like the US has, likewise you can get hybrids like the French system (if the president's party doesn't control Parliment he pretty much becomes a figurehead I belive).

You can mix and match, so many parliaments use PR, the U.K. However is a Parliment that uses first past the post, the US is a presidential system that uses first past the post.

Also you've got being a democracy, which is unconnected to all of this, and being a republic, which is again unconnected and simply about if you have a hereditary ruler (normally a monarch).

edited 15th Jan '16 4:21:41 PM by Silasw

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nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#108882: Jan 15th 2016 at 4:22:55 PM

One advantage of a parliament system is that if the government is doing poorly, you know exactly which party to blame.

Speaking as a Canadian, which also have a parliamentary system, while you're directly voting for a representative for your district, most people pretty much are just voting for either the party or the party leader anyways.

edited 15th Jan '16 4:25:05 PM by nightwyrm_zero

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#108883: Jan 15th 2016 at 4:24:01 PM

[up][up]Also if you are unitary or not. Federal states tend to have it in the name.

edited 15th Jan '16 4:24:14 PM by FFShinra

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#108884: Jan 15th 2016 at 4:28:31 PM

[up] Though names can lie.

edited 15th Jan '16 4:29:03 PM by Silasw

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#108885: Jan 15th 2016 at 4:44:07 PM

[up]True. Though funnily enough, Some of them do so with one-too-many adjectives.

edited 15th Jan '16 4:46:27 PM by nervmeister

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#108886: Jan 15th 2016 at 5:08:39 PM

@ Trump winning. It's probably his invoking New York city pride after Cruz attacked him. It's so convenient for him that I'm half convinced he and Cruz had the whole thing worked out ahead of time.

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#108887: Jan 15th 2016 at 5:10:17 PM

have you seen the number of pubs next to Parliament? most MP's used to go to them and have at least two drinks before doing anything, then the rules and time of Parliament was changed and they can no longer do that

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#108888: Jan 15th 2016 at 5:17:07 PM

[up]I Wonder how that small change has affected their interactions during sessions.

edited 15th Jan '16 5:17:40 PM by nervmeister

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#108889: Jan 15th 2016 at 5:19:37 PM

[up][up] Next to? Try within, M Ps don't leave Parliament to get drunk, they do it within stumbling distance of the chamber.

[up] A lot, apparently when Prime Minister's Question Time was moved to before lunch instead of after things calmed down a lot, as M Ps hadn't just had 2-3 beers with their lunch.

edited 15th Jan '16 5:20:37 PM by Silasw

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#108890: Jan 15th 2016 at 5:23:43 PM

Well than your MP's must govern a lot better drunk than our Congressmen and Women do when their sober.[lol]

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#108891: Jan 15th 2016 at 5:27:58 PM

naa, it's cos, unlike Congress, Parliament ain't designed to be inefficient, and with common law as well it means thing progress a lot quicker

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#108892: Jan 15th 2016 at 5:29:48 PM

Next to? Try within, M Ps don't leave Parliament to get drunk, they do it within stumbling distance of the chamber.

Indeed; there's a bar for each house in that gap between the Palace and the Thames.

edited 15th Jan '16 5:31:07 PM by Deadbeatloser22

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#108893: Jan 15th 2016 at 5:37:44 PM

[up]X3 Nah it's because drunk or sober our lot have to govern, they can't blame the lack of progress on someone else if their party is the majority.

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#108894: Jan 15th 2016 at 5:41:42 PM

hasn't stopped the Tory's from running the "it's all Labours fault!!!!!" line for over 5 years though...

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#108895: Jan 15th 2016 at 5:44:06 PM

A lot, apparently when Prime Minister's Question Time was moved to before lunch instead of after things calmed down a lot, as M Ps hadn't just had 2-3 beers with their lunch.
Being from America, I was going to ask how only 2-3 beers could get an MP that heated. Then I suddenly remembered what "a beer" in an English pub gets served in.

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#108896: Jan 15th 2016 at 5:56:55 PM

[up] You think our stuff can be bad try to Czech stuff, I was wobbly after 1 of those things, now I admit I'm a lightweight but that was weird even for me.

[up][up] True, but they still have to be passing laws, they can't just sit on their hands do nothing and then say Labour is making them do nothing.

edited 15th Jan '16 5:57:36 PM by Silasw

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#108897: Jan 15th 2016 at 5:56:58 PM

Yeah, and most American beer is only about 4% to 5% ABV. Or, as our Canadian neighbors call it, "watered-down horse piss."

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#108898: Jan 15th 2016 at 6:02:03 PM

[up][up]I remember reading somewhere online that the Czech Republic is the No. 1 country with the most alcohol consumed per person. So that's not surprising.

[up] [lol]

edited 15th Jan '16 6:16:58 PM by nervmeister

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#108900: Jan 15th 2016 at 6:16:08 PM

[up]That....just makes too much sense.


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