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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#108077: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:00:54 AM

I thought that was Vegemite?

Vegemite doesn't fuck with your digestive system the way sugar-free gummie bears do.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#108078: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:03:54 AM

What about marmite?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
FieldMarshalFry Field Marshal of Cracked from World Internet War 1 Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Field Marshal of Cracked
#108079: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:08:31 AM

HOW DARE YOU SPEAK OUT AGAINST MARMITE YOU HERETIC!

advancing the front into TV Tropes
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#108080: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:08:44 AM

Is there a recorded case of Marmite giving someone explosive diarrhoea?

If not, then it's still not as bad.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#108081: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:14:04 AM

Taco Bell?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#108083: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:16:50 AM

What I'm curious about (assuming this doesn't end with the building being stormed or the gunmen deciding to go out in a blaze of glory, and I think law enforcement is trying very hard to avoid either of those outcomes) is what will happen when these guys surrender. I mean they literally took up arms against the United States and called for others to join them in doing so. That's about as textbook a definition of insurrection as you can find, along with all the other charges that can be thrown at them. (And honestly, I would love to see them tried for Treason too.)

I want them to be taken in peacefully, because what kicked off the militia movement of the 90s was the heavy handed tactics and treatment at Waco and Ruby Ridge, so I don't want that to become the rallying cry for the current batch of militia fuckwads, but legally they should absolutely get the book thrown at them. It will be absolutely infuriating if these guys continue to get a reaction like "Those wacky boys" from the country at large, especially when at the same time large portions of the country watch police roll up to a 12 year old kid with a pellet gun and blow him away as soon as they get out of their car (in an Open Carry state no less) and talk about how it would be a tragedy if the cop was charged.

edited 5th Jan '16 8:17:59 AM by TheWanderer

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#108084: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:18:13 AM

[up] The double-standard there is intense, but a whole lot of people buy into it unreservedly.

edited 5th Jan '16 8:18:28 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#108085: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:19:39 AM

Yeah, I've seen people complaining about how if these guys had been black or Arabic then the National Guard would already have been scrambled and they'd all be dead.

But apparently it's OK to side with these people and call the Ferguson rioters animals because the white guys haven't actually destroyed anything.

edited 5th Jan '16 8:22:03 AM by Deadbeatloser22

"Yup. That tasted purple."
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#108086: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:20:28 AM

Well they would be

Oh really when?
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#108087: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:29:45 AM

They are just spaghetti western fans with way too much time in their hands. Their incompetence alone will drive them into poverty alone so if you ask me the only attention they deserve is the same a clown circus gets.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#108088: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:33:28 AM

What I don't get about these militia/terrorist quacks is why they took over one of the least vital federal installations ever to start their revolution?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#108089: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:34:23 AM

Because they are stupid as fuck.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#108090: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:36:40 AM

Because they want attention without having to make any real effort.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#108091: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:36:46 AM

Maybe the Feds can save some money by just waiting for them to starve/accidentally burn the place down/forget to keep breathing? Seriously, every dead insurgent in history is rolling in their graves, from laughter, at this ineptitude.

edited 5th Jan '16 8:45:24 AM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#108092: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:43:50 AM

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/why-the-bundy-militia-mixes-mormon-symbolism-with-anti-government-sentiment/

Seems that Bundy has lost the plot more than we thought. Apparently Jesus wrote the Constitution personally or something.

edited 5th Jan '16 8:44:07 AM by Deadbeatloser22

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#108093: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:47:23 AM

Well, with the double standard, I've heard people point it out the other way around as well ("these people were complaining about police militarization with Ferguson, why are they so bloodthirsty now?").

My view is something along the lines of "right tool for the right job". How you deal with an armed militia occupation on a building you only want to protect on principle is different than how you deal with a riot that's actively destroying valuable property. (For example, non-lethal force is a viable option when dealing with riot control, not when dealing with a militia)

[up]Zachary Hale Comstock called. He says he wants his minions back. So that he can fire them for being too crazy even for him.

Leviticus 19:34
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#108094: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:52:15 AM

IF Bundy had only founded a failure of a city in shit terrain that guaranteed neither grazing nor water to its citizens, but not raised a stink about being a shitlord, it would have been enough

IF Bundy had only raised a stink about being a shitlord, but not radicalized his family into gun wielding nutjobs, it would have been enough

IF Bundy had only radicalized his family into gun wielding nutjobs, but not mistakn scripture with constitution, it would have been enough

IF Bundy had only mistaken scripture with constitution, but not given us these mighty fine hours of entertainment laughing at his own starvation IT. WOULD. HAVE. BEEN. ENOUGH.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#108095: Jan 5th 2016 at 8:53:43 AM

[up][up]The Ferguson protestors weren't armed terrorists. I don't think the police should fight them anyway. Send in the National Guard and surround the place. Give them some time to surrender and after that forcibly remove them.

edited 5th Jan '16 8:54:17 AM by Kostya

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#108096: Jan 5th 2016 at 10:32:53 AM

Forcibly removing them could lead to unnecessary losses among the Nation Guard troops/whoever is with them though. Force should only be used if the militia begin actively engaging the authorities.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#108097: Jan 5th 2016 at 10:34:06 AM

Just let them starve.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Aquaconda (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#108098: Jan 5th 2016 at 11:31:42 AM

I'm confused. What's the situation happening?

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#108099: Jan 5th 2016 at 11:39:46 AM

A Right-Wing Militia Fanatic group has seized an (unoccupied) building in a national park in Oregon and is threatening to hold it until the Federal government releases two ranchers who surrendered for prison terms after being charged with arson. They also apparently want the government to cede sovereignty over the land of the park itself.

edited 5th Jan '16 11:40:21 AM by Fighteer

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#108100: Jan 5th 2016 at 11:39:53 AM

Y'all Qaeda performed a Yee-Hawd on an empty building. Ryan Bundy, son of Cliven Bundy, has a bunch of yokels holding up in a government building and demanding that the land be turned over to farmers. They forgot to bring food, however, and are appealing on social media for snacks.

[nja]

Wait, they're demanding the release of convicts? I thought it was about the park.

edited 5th Jan '16 11:41:08 AM by TobiasDrake

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