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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#107776: Dec 30th 2015 at 10:05:30 AM

I dunno if I'd call it mental illness as opposed to the success of the greatest propaganda machine this side of Best Korea.

Oh really when?
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#107777: Dec 30th 2015 at 10:07:42 AM

@ Fighteer:

That people can't see this, but can imagine Obama doing it, is a symptom of genuine mental illness.

I guess that's what Trump's supporters might say at the other end of the spectrum.

edited 30th Dec '15 10:08:26 AM by Greenmantle

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#107778: Dec 30th 2015 at 10:10:43 AM

That is true but one side comes to that conclusion by analyzing facts. The other side just has fear mongering and fevered paranoia from Fox News and their ilk.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#107779: Dec 30th 2015 at 10:10:45 AM

[up][up]Since Obama has, self-evidently, not taken away everyone's guns or declared a military dictatorship, evidence is on my side.

As noted [up], if you ignore facts and just declare whatever you believe to be the truth, you can always try to flip rhetoric onto your side of the fence. Doesn't make it rational or logical.

edited 30th Dec '15 10:11:23 AM by Fighteer

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Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#107780: Dec 30th 2015 at 10:26:23 AM

It's certainly not mental illness. I've known people that hold these views who (at least as far as I know) have no actual issues. It's a matter of choice, raising, and disinformation.

Now it is an extreme case of bias and illogical thinking, but if that was counted as mental illness then everyone would be considered mentally ill at some point on some issue.

edited 30th Dec '15 10:40:24 AM by Joesolo

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#107781: Dec 30th 2015 at 10:45:53 AM

If it doesn't count as mental illness, it should. We spend way too much time playing the "everyone is entitled to their point of view" game.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#107782: Dec 30th 2015 at 10:51:52 AM

That people can't see this, but can imagine Obama doing it, is a symptom of genuine mental illness.
Cognitive dissonance is mental illness?

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#107783: Dec 30th 2015 at 10:52:21 AM

[up][up] But wouldn't that mean one could lock away one's political opponents, just because they disagree?

You'll be unsurprised to hear that quite a few repressive regimes have done just that.

edited 30th Dec '15 10:53:27 AM by Greenmantle

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#107784: Dec 30th 2015 at 10:55:53 AM

No, I wouldn't take it that far. Besides, most mental illness can be treated on an outpatient basis. However, I can dream about requiring passing a logical fallacies test as a condition for being allowed to exercise any form of franchise. It wouldn't have to be specific to any particular political philosophy.

edited 30th Dec '15 10:57:29 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#107785: Dec 30th 2015 at 11:06:52 AM

Well you're significantly broadening the definition of mental illness, and would have to include Anyone whoever held true to a belief that had clear flaws. Were Lamarkian evolutionists mentally ill? Was Ben Franklin mentally ill for getting electron flow backwards? Are half the people in the .gif pronunciation argument mentally ill? What about those who argue the Star wars prequels were better than the originals?

edited 30th Dec '15 11:11:28 AM by Joesolo

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#107786: Dec 30th 2015 at 11:08:18 AM

@ Garcon What is the JCS? Also, I am genuinely surprised other countries think the US world order is fair and just, I thought the consensus was that America was nothing but a self righteous bully that should mind it's own business, that business being to crawl into an ugly fat whole and die.tongue Or at least that's how it was by the end of the bush administration.

[up] Those who believe the prequels are better should be thrown into an asylum to rot. They are clearly insane and a menace to society.tongue

edited 30th Dec '15 11:09:25 AM by JackOLantern1337

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Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#107787: Dec 30th 2015 at 11:12:07 AM

Well I can't debate that point. tongue

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#107788: Dec 30th 2015 at 11:16:55 AM

[up][up]Joint Chiefs of Staff, I think.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#107789: Dec 30th 2015 at 11:35:18 AM

[up][up][up]

Nah, you're the Hammer of the West. You crush anyone trying to change the forementioned order, and that is perfectly acceptable. If only it would be the honest policy.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#107790: Dec 30th 2015 at 11:41:31 AM

JCS stands for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. A group made up of the highest ranking generals and admirals from every branch of the American military.

That being said they technically don't have any operational authority anymore and exist only as a group of advisors.

edited 30th Dec '15 11:46:16 AM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#107791: Dec 30th 2015 at 12:41:59 PM

RE: Listeria Outbreak

Huh - so I guess that explains all the "Lies about the Dairy Industry" ads I've been seeing run on youtube lately.

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#107792: Dec 30th 2015 at 12:52:53 PM

And with Benghazi, the upcoming movie is precisely as "America, FUCK YEAH!" as you'd expect it to be, from what I've been hearing.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
darksidevoid Anti-Gnosis Weapon from The Frontiers (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Anti-Gnosis Weapon
#107793: Dec 30th 2015 at 2:43:57 PM

There's an interesting editorial in the NYT today about the role of political consulting firms (meaning, in large part, ad firms) in propelling the explosive growth in the cost of campaign financing.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#107794: Dec 30th 2015 at 3:49:21 PM

Well, if they realize that financing is unlimited by law, they can charge what they wish and desperate partisans will pay what they wish.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#107795: Dec 30th 2015 at 10:30:28 PM

Someone created a Donald Trump filter. Hooray!

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#107796: Dec 30th 2015 at 10:37:57 PM

Not yay. Those things vandalize the wiki and we have to ban people for them constantly.

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probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#107797: Dec 30th 2015 at 11:05:00 PM

rubio is still ahead of trump over at oddschecker.

i feel like channeling Gandalf - Trump, you will not pass!

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#107798: Dec 31st 2015 at 2:27:55 AM

I'd trust that more if Rubio's campaign hadn't gone:

"Field work doesn't matter. Ground game doesn't matter. We just need to run more TV ads. We don't need to get out the vote. Everything's just fine."

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#107799: Dec 31st 2015 at 7:55:03 AM

Rubio is only sane compared to most of the rest of the Republican field (bar Kasich), he's just better at camouflaging it. Which in the long term makes him more dangerous than Trump.

edited 31st Dec '15 7:55:22 AM by tricksterson

Trump delenda est
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#107800: Dec 31st 2015 at 7:58:31 AM

Rubio doesn't seem to want to do any of the work to get elected. It's weird.

edited 31st Dec '15 7:58:45 AM by Fighteer

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