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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#107426: Dec 22nd 2015 at 8:24:28 PM

What's wrong with attention raising? You guys seem to ignore some serious shit.

Unless you mean personal attention, then I'd ask who the hell is getting personally famous over BLM?

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#107427: Dec 22nd 2015 at 8:33:36 PM

There's nothing wrong with attention raising, but I'm not gonna go jumping on every band waggon that comes along.

And while there are some groups I do support, BLM is definitely not one of them.

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edited 22nd Dec '15 8:38:44 PM by Skycobra51

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#107428: Dec 22nd 2015 at 8:41:04 PM

I'm just rather curious as to your reasoning. It's a group about raising awereness about policy brutality and bias against blacks, what's there to object to?

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Indiana Solo
#107429: Dec 22nd 2015 at 9:02:07 PM

"Instead of a crispy baguette with grilled pork, pate, pickled vegetables and fresh herbs, the sandwich used ciabatta bread, pulled pork and coleslaw. “It was ridiculous,” Nguyen said. “How could they just throw out something completely different and label it as another country’s traditional food?”"

Yes indeed, how dare they appropriate a dish from another country, Why, if they used, lets say, a baguette and claimed it wasn't French, there would be outrage! Hang on a second...

[up] Some of their supporters like to characterize the issue as if cops everywhere will murder a black person at the slightest provocation and tend to come off very much as anti-police rather than looking for reform.

Their interference with rallies of those who actually support them(including Bernie Sanders) also rubs some people the wrong way.

edited 22nd Dec '15 9:12:37 PM by Joesolo

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#107430: Dec 22nd 2015 at 9:04:41 PM

Vietnam was a French colony, culture and dishes get exported.

edited 22nd Dec '15 9:05:43 PM by Silasw

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#107431: Dec 22nd 2015 at 9:05:59 PM

Getting bent out of shape over food is a bit petty. Its fucking food, who cares where it came from long as its eatable...edible.

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#107432: Dec 22nd 2015 at 9:08:11 PM

When I think of cultural appropriation in food I think of those "Japanese" places full of random kitschy stuff and the food is cooked in front of you by Koreans and the entire chain is owned by some white dude.

edited 22nd Dec '15 9:09:27 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#107433: Dec 22nd 2015 at 9:11:12 PM

Having someone else faulty claim that some shit they threw together is an item from your culture and history isn't fun, if nothing else it's anoying to be lied to about what something is.

Someone Rick Rolled with a fake Trump withdrawal vid a bit back, it's like that, having a person tell you that some you want is happening and then it turns out to be fake bullshit.

It's not a massive deal, but it's still shitty.

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#107434: Dec 22nd 2015 at 9:15:31 PM

@Silsaw I'm well aware of Vietnam's colonial history. Claiming Cultural appropriation of a dish that itself involves components is pretty hypocritical is what I'm saying.

Saying it's shit is a fine response. Getting annoyed about it is fine. "Cultural appropriation" is a bit much. It's not like they put down Haggis and called it Vietnamese. They made an attempt at a Vietnamese dish and it was shit.

They make crap pasta with a bad sauce and they don't use any garlic, I'm not going to say "They're appropriating my culture!" I'm going to say "These fuckers can't even make sauce right".

And I won't be surprised because it's a cafeteria. Cafeteria is almost ALWAYS shit.

edited 22nd Dec '15 9:24:44 PM by Joesolo

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#107435: Dec 22nd 2015 at 9:24:16 PM

[up] Being of Scottish/English/Danish decent on my dads side, I personally wouldn't give a damn if the Vietnamese mucked around with haggis or claimed it for themselves. Its disgusting so have at it.tongue

edited 22nd Dec '15 9:29:25 PM by Skycobra51

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#107436: Dec 22nd 2015 at 9:25:13 PM

I wouldn't call that an attempt, seems more like strait up false advertisement to me.

I agree that calling it cultural appropriation is silly, but the basic point that they're falsely claiming food is from another culture when they're clearly just throwing random shit together, that's legit.

Maybe I've just heard enough stories about "traditional English food" places not even being able to do fish and chips, but if I went somewhere and they pretended a dish was from my culture that wasn't I'd complain. I wouldn't call it cultural appropriation but I'd still complain.

edited 22nd Dec '15 9:30:36 PM by Silasw

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#107437: Dec 22nd 2015 at 9:27:43 PM

I hear that a lot actually. I have a similar relation with Capozzelli.

[up] "Instead of a crispy baguette with grilled pork, pate, pickled vegetables and fresh herbs, the sandwich used ciabatta bread, pulled pork and coleslaw. " That's the dish of contention, they substituted things rather poorly, but there was an attempt.

edited 22nd Dec '15 9:35:14 PM by Joesolo

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#107438: Dec 22nd 2015 at 9:30:59 PM

Going back to Jack's link a couple of pages back, from what I understand, it's a radicalization of the left in order to, as these people think, to get control back of the world from the radicalized right. A fight fire with fire sort of situation. Which never leads to anything good...

As for cafeteria food, I always felt school cafeteria food got better as you got older. Mind, my high school was the only one in the distroct and had a somewhat choice on what you could eat if you could stomach the lines.

Also, I hated the cardboard elementary school pizza.

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#107439: Dec 22nd 2015 at 9:33:44 PM

Don't knock the pizza.tongue

It was one of the few truly palatable foods they serve at school.

Use to eat it everyday during lunch period, especially in High School.

edited 22nd Dec '15 9:36:08 PM by Skycobra51

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#107440: Dec 22nd 2015 at 9:37:39 PM

Having gone to public school, Pizza was variable. My high school made it decent for my first year or so, but after that, and in the schools before it, describing it as a tomato scrapped on cardboard and covered with cheese would be generous.

Old-Dominos's atrocity that they though they could call pizza was almost better(though credit where credit is due, it's worlds better now)

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#107441: Dec 22nd 2015 at 9:44:58 PM

Pizza for the most part was a sure thing in my highschool, and better than the alternatives. Though it was kind of nasty if you had the misfortune of being first in line, since they were still serving the previous lunches pizza.

edited 22nd Dec '15 9:46:23 PM by Skycobra51

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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#107442: Dec 22nd 2015 at 9:46:04 PM

School pizza in middle school was this horrible whole-wheat concoction with this horribly gummy cheese and tomato sauce that I suspected was secretly red paint. I ate a roll with butter almost every day for lunch (exceptions were rare and usually the BBQ Rib sandwich)

I didn't have the high school pizza, because it was open campus so I could just go to one of the ten pizza places in walking distance.

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#107443: Dec 22nd 2015 at 9:54:08 PM

I think the best pizza I had was when I was up in Boston visiting my Uncle and went to an Italian Pizzeria run by Albanians. They made some damn good food there.

On a side note: Some of the best Fish and Chips I had was in Maine.

edited 22nd Dec '15 10:04:00 PM by Skycobra51

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#107444: Dec 22nd 2015 at 10:22:11 PM

Going back to Jack's link a couple of pages back, from what I understand, it's a radicalization of the left in order to, as these people think, to get control back of the world from the radicalized right.
That's precisely backwards. The Democratic party has been largely centrist for nigh-on 30 years, while the Republicans have been consistently right-wing, leaving people with actual leftist views without anyone they liked on the national stage (though they tended to vote Democrat because at least they didn't disagree with them as much as with Republicans). After Bush Jr, the political mood in the country was shifting away from decades of leaning to the right, resulting in the election of Obama — who was still centrist, but the left-most viable candidate available at the time. Obama being elected caused the right-wing part of the spectrum to blow a gasket, and gave rise to the Tea Party and the like.

Basically, the radical right arose in response to the moderate left being given a voice on the national stage for the first time in decades.

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#107445: Dec 22nd 2015 at 10:30:07 PM

Moderates on either side seem to be despised by both parties unfortunately.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#107446: Dec 22nd 2015 at 10:40:42 PM

The way I've heard that described is that moderates don't get results. You don't change things by being "wishy-washy". Or at least that's how some people see it.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#107447: Dec 22nd 2015 at 10:45:48 PM

I once knew a friend of my girlfriend's family, a conservative who outright called moderates "cowards".

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#107448: Dec 22nd 2015 at 10:54:40 PM

Talk about narrow minded.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#107449: Dec 22nd 2015 at 10:59:27 PM

[up] Yeah. To be honest that attitude plays a big part in my general cynicism and lack of patience towards politics.

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#107450: Dec 22nd 2015 at 11:29:50 PM

Moderates on either side seem to be despised by both parties unfortunately.
The Democrats on the national level have been moderates since about Reagan. Reagan absolutely slaughtered the Democrats in both his elections (1980 and 1984), as did Bush Sr. (in 1988). It wasn't until Bill Clinton (a moderate) that the Democrats retook the White House (in 1992). The party pretty much stayed moderate until 2008, when they nominated Obama over Hillary Clinton as the Democratic presidential candidate — and Obama was still fairly moderate, just less so than Clinton (who, like her husband, was pretty centrist). The disappointment in Obama over the fact that he hasn't gotten as much done as hoped is only just now leading to the mainstream national Democratic party being actually left, rather than center.

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