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probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#107276: Dec 20th 2015 at 1:05:53 AM

Makes gushy noises over Hillary and Bernie. They work so well together.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#107277: Dec 20th 2015 at 1:11:20 AM

Oh you did not just ship that.

probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#107278: Dec 20th 2015 at 1:21:18 AM

[up]. I didn't bring up shipping.

when Clinton wins, I will be very sad if she doesn't give Sanders important position.

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#107279: Dec 20th 2015 at 3:21:24 AM

Or at least works with him as a constant reliable ally, if he remains in the Senate.

But the plain cordial regard between them, I don't see them not working together in some fashion after this.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#107280: Dec 20th 2015 at 6:16:44 AM

You definitely won't see Bernie on the ticket though, Clinton will need a younger running mate.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#107281: Dec 20th 2015 at 7:46:11 AM

Yeah, I gotta concur. Hence my consistent rooting for O'Malley on that count - we need to make sure that whoever takes the veep slot will be a good candidate in 2024, and we need to start training them for the job.

As for working together between Sanders and Clinton, not sure, really. For better or for worse, Clinton is the candidate of Wall Street and Goldman Sachs, while Sanders would likely try to put Krugman on the Federal Reserve and appoint an Attorney General specifically to start throwing bankers in jail. And new solutions about the economy and Wall Street are Sanders' particular thing - if he's not appointed to a position that allows him to carry those out, then what would Clinton do with him?

edited 20th Dec '15 7:46:59 AM by Ramidel

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#107282: Dec 20th 2015 at 7:50:26 AM

O'Malley is not a good VP candidate. Too much tainted by the Baltimore incidents, and TBH I think a minority member would work out better.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#107283: Dec 20th 2015 at 8:04:53 AM

I'm not referring to his suitability as a ticket-balancer - honestly, I think ticket balance is overrated right now. I think that of the existing individuals we've seen, he's the best available 2024 candidate and I want him to get some exposure for that.

Also, I really don't think that the Republicans can use the African-American community to attack O'Malley. What are they going to do, steal the black vote by promising...to make it easier for Baltimore police to crack down on them?

As for getting in a minority candidate...I honestly don't see any veepable minorities right now. Any specific candidates you had in mind?

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#107284: Dec 20th 2015 at 8:13:48 AM

VP slot, again, is basically reserved for Julian Castro unless something strange happens in the next 9 months.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#107285: Dec 20th 2015 at 8:14:06 AM

[up][up] Maybe Corey Booker? Or they could nominated Ben Carson for the lulls. Is their any rule that says Obama can't be the Veep?

edited 20th Dec '15 8:14:16 AM by JackOLantern1337

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#107286: Dec 20th 2015 at 8:18:09 AM

[up]Yes, having served two terms makes him ineligible for Presidency and the Veep must be prez-eligible.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#107287: Dec 20th 2015 at 8:36:50 AM

Does the constitution say the veep has to be prez-eligible? It would definitely subvert the purpose of the VP (which is to take over if #1 can't finish the term of office), and would also be a very dumb idea because your VP is your party and there's a decent chance that third in line, the Speaker, is not, but i don't think there's actually anything stopping you.

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#107288: Dec 20th 2015 at 9:03:18 AM

Yes, the Constitution explicitly states that the Vice President must be eligible to be President.

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#107289: Dec 20th 2015 at 10:29:57 AM

I would have no qualms with Corey Booker as a VP choice.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#107290: Dec 20th 2015 at 11:01:12 AM

Guys, Booker ain't gonna happen, for the same reason Sanders won't happen: Dems want to control the Senate.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#107291: Dec 20th 2015 at 11:08:11 AM

I've got to ask where you're getting all these names, considering no one officially running has even made any mention of who'd they would like for VP. Are you just suggesting people you would like to be in the position/

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#107292: Dec 20th 2015 at 11:13:30 AM

Those names are all rising stars in the Democratic Party. Complete spitballing.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#107293: Dec 20th 2015 at 12:04:18 PM

The Constitution cannot govern the American empire.

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ramuf Electric Heart from the Shining Throne Since: Jan, 2013
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#107294: Dec 20th 2015 at 12:11:50 PM

Normally I just kind of lurk this thread, having posted a handful of the times in the past, but I feel like I've gotta say something here.

I read that article earlier this morning, and no, that's not what it says. The article mentions some weird jurisdictional quirks/issues/loopholes/idiosyncrasies (which are certainly bad and need fixing) and discusses them, but it doesn't imply that the Constitution is fundamentally unable to govern the American periphery. At least, that's not how I read it.

edited 20th Dec '15 12:13:00 PM by ramuf

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#107295: Dec 20th 2015 at 12:13:54 PM

I know this is missing the point a bit, but is Ted Cruz actually Canada born like the article states or is it another "birther" conspiracy like with Obama?

EDIT: The article about it linked in the original states he is, but his mother was a US Citizen which makes him American by birth, regardless of where it happened, if I'm understanding right.

edited 20th Dec '15 12:17:02 PM by sgamer82

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#107296: Dec 20th 2015 at 12:16:54 PM

[up]Actually, yes. Cruz was born in Canada, and openly admits it. However, he is eligible to run since he was born a US citizen.

I have seen at least one Conservative pundit note the irony (he was making fun of birthers, though).

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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#107297: Dec 20th 2015 at 12:24:21 PM

[up]I once said that if Cruz gets nominated to be a US candidate I'd like a written apology from all Brithers.

Now those idiots are as quiet as ever.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#107298: Dec 20th 2015 at 4:53:08 PM

Cruz is an American for the same reason that Obama is an American; their mothers were both American citizens. Of course Obama was actually born in the US, but don't let that get in the way of a good conspiracy.

Also, apparently Jimmy Carter's 28 year old grandson Jeremy has died suddenly. Carter revealed the death at his Church and went on to teach Sunday school as usual.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/20/us/jimmy-carter-grandson-death/index.html

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