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Know-age Since: May, 2010
#106126: Dec 7th 2015 at 5:09:01 PM

Does anyone remember how 10 years or so ago people were always complaining about how politicians never apologize? Is this a cyclical thing or something?

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#106127: Dec 7th 2015 at 6:00:41 PM

I have more respect for a politician who apologizes than one who doesn't.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#106128: Dec 7th 2015 at 6:16:46 PM

There's two kinds of apologies in consideration here. There's the genuine "I screwed up and won't do that again" type and there's the "cover your ass to try to avoid further offense because it's bad publicity". A lot more political apologies are of the second type.

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#106129: Dec 7th 2015 at 6:22:20 PM

Or else they apologize for the wrong thing. They apologize for the lies and coverup afterwards, but deliberately avoid apologizing for the original sin.

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#106130: Dec 7th 2015 at 6:43:54 PM

Obviously I'm referring to the humility variety, not the CYA variety.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#106131: Dec 7th 2015 at 7:56:37 PM

It's a few days old, but I though it may be worth mentioning as it's in regard to the San Benardino shooting.

What the Hell Just Happened on MSNBC and CNN?

I've seen a picture of one of the guys rummaging through the child's room and showing toys he found to the cameraman. So what the actual hell?

Another article about that, same source.

edited 7th Dec '15 7:59:31 PM by DrunkenNordmann

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#106132: Dec 7th 2015 at 8:21:48 PM

It's a step up from their normal conduct of going though the things of plane crashing victims.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
LogoP Party Crasher from the Land of Deep Blue Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Party Crasher
#106133: Dec 7th 2015 at 8:27:30 PM

I hope they get charged for contaminating evidence. Sad to see that journalistic ethics apparently don't mean nothing anymore.

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#106134: Dec 7th 2015 at 8:48:40 PM

@ Fighteer

So how much are they if you single them out from the total population of the US, which is 322,014,853, if this is to be believed?

probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#106135: Dec 7th 2015 at 9:42:13 PM

(shakes collective US news media)

Stop giving Trump attention, goddamit.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#106136: Dec 7th 2015 at 9:46:46 PM

So Martin O'Malley (you know, the other guy in the Democratic racetongue?) called Trump a "fascist demagogue" in response to his "ban the Muslims" policy. Sanders only called him a demagogue while Clinton limited herself to calling him "reprehensible, prejudiced and divisive", which is right but not as harsh as I'd like.

All the GOP candidates called him out to one degree or another (Christie, Rubio, Bush, Graham and Kasich were all appropriately severe, and some were harsher than Clinton)...except for fellow lunatic/fanatic Ted Cruz who only said it "wasn't his policy", probably because Cruz thinks that if Trump slips up he can win over the far-right wing of the GOP base and doesn't want to tick them off.

Yeah, I want to ask if Trump can get any crazier. I mean if he does he'll eventually start calling for violence explicitly rather than implicitly.

edited 7th Dec '15 9:47:22 PM by Rationalinsanity

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#106137: Dec 7th 2015 at 9:53:43 PM

@ Logo: Didn't the Police (or the FBI) invite the media into the house?

@ Trump: I won't be surprised if he says he'll stop all immigration — and emigration — some point soon.

edited 7th Dec '15 9:56:32 PM by Greenmantle

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#106138: Dec 7th 2015 at 10:00:17 PM

I doubt he'll stop American citizens from leaving; if people leave because of a hypothetical Trump White House's policies, he'll just call them "losers" and say good riddance.

Now if they flee to Canada/Mexico and attempt to overthrow him, Bay of Pigs style, things might change.tongue

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LogoP Party Crasher from the Land of Deep Blue Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
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#106139: Dec 7th 2015 at 10:05:17 PM

[up][up] As far as I know, no. It was the landlord. Which is also illegal.

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#106140: Dec 7th 2015 at 10:17:23 PM

Hallow Hawk, #106134: I don't know offhand, but I'm sure that you could extrapolate it given the polling agencies' methodology. X% of R voters say they'd support Trump, Y% of voters are R's. X * Y * voting population = Trump supporters, within the margin of error of the poll.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#106141: Dec 7th 2015 at 10:26:12 PM

[up] You're missing two levels, X% of the population are Republicans, Y% of them are primary voters, Z% of them are early enough primary voters that their vote can be measured now, Q% of them are voting for Trump.

Oh and Trump has already called for/condoned violence, a group of racists attacked a black person at a rally and Trump said the victim deserved it or something along thouse lines.

edited 7th Dec '15 10:28:04 PM by Silasw

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#106142: Dec 7th 2015 at 10:33:45 PM

An online petition calls on U.K. Home Secretary Theresa May to bar the Republican presidential frontrunner from entering the country for allegedly violating the nation's hate-speech laws.

So, hypothetically, what would happen if the President were banned from stepping on the soil of one of our closest allies?

edited 7th Dec '15 10:37:30 PM by sgamer82

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#106143: Dec 7th 2015 at 10:39:55 PM

Donald Trump isn't going to become president, and if he did he wouldn't be banned from the territory of one of your closest allies, because we wouldn't be one of your closest allies, neither we nor anybody else would be your allies.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#106144: Dec 7th 2015 at 10:40:22 PM

[up][up]He'll just have a representative, in theory.

Truth be told though, I seriously doubt Trump will even get the nomination, let alone the actual presidency.

edited 7th Dec '15 10:40:31 PM by Protagonist506

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#106146: Dec 7th 2015 at 10:43:15 PM

@Silasw: Are you really sure Cameron wouldn't rush to remind everyone about the historic friendship between your two nations?

Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#106147: Dec 7th 2015 at 10:46:52 PM

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/white-house-says-trump-statement-muslims-contrary-u-223046441.html

Yeah... Maybe he wants all the hype. Don't know if he has anything in mind for Muslims living in countries like Singapore, but I'm sure he's gonna lump them all together.

edited 7th Dec '15 10:47:26 PM by Ominae

LogoP Party Crasher from the Land of Deep Blue Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Party Crasher
#106148: Dec 7th 2015 at 10:49:34 PM

I doubt Trump knows where Singapore even is on the map.

edited 7th Dec '15 10:49:58 PM by LogoP

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probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#106149: Dec 7th 2015 at 10:52:00 PM

Invasion of Iraq vs President Donald Trump

Which is worse?

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#106150: Dec 7th 2015 at 10:55:53 PM

[up] Depends. For the rest of the world or for the USA?

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