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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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It's not soda, though (soft drinks can be pop, though). And, even milk can be bought in 2l bottles. In short: you have no idea how much we use the metric system everyday (i.e. a lot). Heck, recipes have generally given up with the ounces. Knock it off.
edited 6th Dec '15 11:48:24 AM by Euodiachloris
@Xoopher101: There's more than one pro-intellectual right-wing ideology. I'd argue Objectivism as a good example (I'd even argue it's somewhere right of Conservatism).
I myself follow what I consider to be a more "intellectual counterpart" to conservatism. It's technically not conservatism because it's focused on the future rather than the past, but it's functionally very similar. (My view's technically progressive, but it has a vastly different opinion on what progress actually means)
Here's various opinions I have:
I do believe in human-caused global warming. The best solution I can come up with is to try popularizing nuclear power.
I support expansion of the space program.
I support both aiding the refugees, and deploying ground troops to defeat ISIS.
I'm against wealth redistribution and pro-free market.
I support religion in the public sphere.
Leviticus 19:34Objectivism is not remotely intellectual, because it reduces the entire field of philosophy to Ayn Rand studies, which is a problem because Rand's understanding of philosophy would be an embarrassment for the average high-school student.
edited 6th Dec '15 12:07:17 PM by Achaemenid
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X3 Yeah the system jumps depending on size, at a restaurant you'll get a pint of something to drink (say Coke) and then go to the shop and buy a 2l bottle of whatever, be it milk, Coke or something else.
I was referring to the US, not the UK. In the US, we use metric for literally nothing except large quantities of soda(/pop/soda-pop/coke, depending on your regional biases), which typically come in 2 liter bottles. Not even soda in smaller containers use metric — a can is 12 ounces (fluid ounces, as opposed to weight ounces, because those are both things) and a small bottle that you'd get from a vending machine is 20 ounces.
My point is that the US is a similarly arbitrary combination of metric and imperial measurements, it's just that the ratio of which is used how often is different.
edited 6th Dec '15 1:00:10 PM by NativeJovian
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.I wonder if 2 litre bottles of soft drinks are just some weird international standard that everyone has to accept, if the US accepts it then something funny is happening.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran![]()
No, two liter bottles are just two liter bottles over here. They might be labelled in both systems, but no one calls them "67.whatever fluid ounce bottles". IIRC, the soft drink industry changed to that standard decades ago when people thought that the US might actually be switching to metric, but they ended up being basically the only thing to switch, and they never bothered to switch back.
Guns (and the associated ammunition) use both systems, depending on the round. If you see something that's just a number, then that's its caliber in inches (eg, .22, .40, .45, .50 — which are pronounced as whole numbers, as in "twenty-two" rather than "point two two"), whereas if it uses metric then you generally list both the number and the unit (eg, 9mm).
edited 6th Dec '15 1:31:16 PM by NativeJovian
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
x5 Because the bore diameter for 9mm is virtually the same as for .38 caliber (.356"), and that would cause too much confusion.
To illustrate the problem, the Medusa revolver can chamber over two dozen different types of pistol ammo, as long as they're nominally 9mm/.38 caliber.
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It fails to understand that drones are simply remote controlled weapon delivery platforms, and not flying death robots.
From a technological stand point there is no difference between a bomb dropped by a drone and one dropped from a manned jet. Even the target differences aren't a tech thing, the USAF uses drones in a (normally) perfectly legal manner and exactly the same way that it might use a normal manned aircraft. The drone strikes we hear about on the news with civilian casualties aren't that way because drone tech is evil, they're that way because they're CIA strikes and the CIA doesn't care about killing civilians.
TL:DR The problem with drones isn't drones, it's the CIA being assholes via drones, something the anti drone movement seems to have missed.
It's the same as the anti GMO movement, they're got a useful and perfectly okay tech mixed up with a particular group of assholes who happen to use that tech to do asshole things.
edited 6th Dec '15 1:38:41 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThat said, continued discussions on measurements should probably go to the US Culture thread, and on guns should go to the gun thread, because neither is really relevant to politics.
edited 6th Dec '15 1:41:02 PM by NativeJovian
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.I thought that's what the anti-drone movement was about- the CIA using UA Vs to do questionable stuff
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At times it may be, but it (or elements of it) fall into anti tech hysteria. Banning drones would do nothing (and would such for the USAF, who use their drones reasonably), the CIA would just bomb civilians with normal aircraft. Which is the key problem, there shouldn't be an anti-drone movement, there should be an anti-CIA-killing-civilians movement.

edited 6th Dec '15 12:01:36 PM by FieldMarshalFry
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