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FieldMarshalFry Field Marshal of Cracked from World Internet War 1 Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#105326: Nov 24th 2015 at 1:29:20 PM

if Trump does somehow become President... I think we can all agree it's in the best interests of Earth to just nuke you lot and be done with it

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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#105327: Nov 24th 2015 at 1:31:40 PM

[up] Not necesarily. Say. Didn't Lee Harvey oswald have children? Maybe there is a surviving family member.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#105328: Nov 24th 2015 at 1:36:42 PM

Wait, I thought only competent presidents get killed in office.

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
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#105329: Nov 24th 2015 at 1:38:48 PM

[up][up]okay, you will have 4 weeks to assassinate him, and if not... well, look on the bright side, you'll be able to experience Fallout first hand

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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#105330: Nov 24th 2015 at 1:40:22 PM

Well I do not live in the U.S.

Then again, if Trump is elected it would mean a majority of the people in the U.S are for his stuff, something a Lee Oswald would not do...

Dangit. Can't we just put all of the U.S in the corner with no bacon if they do it?

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#105331: Nov 24th 2015 at 1:41:55 PM

I am seeing more and more articles about "the GOP's Trump problem". And the GOP has put together a task force to try to take down his popularity - but from what I'm hearing, said task force has no original ideas.

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#105332: Nov 24th 2015 at 1:42:40 PM

Trump cannot fail, only be failed, etc.

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#105333: Nov 24th 2015 at 1:43:00 PM

[up][up][up]well...... lets make them a colony again first, see how that works out, they clearly are not mature enough for self governance

edited 24th Nov '15 1:43:23 PM by FieldMarshalFry

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#105335: Nov 24th 2015 at 1:57:20 PM

Okay guys, I'm as unnerved about the prospect of a Trump presidency as anyone else, but wishing for or requesting physical harm to befall actual real-life people is against forum policy.

Sorry, but I gotta play hall monitor on this. Don't make me get the teacher. tongue

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#105336: Nov 24th 2015 at 1:57:25 PM

Trump is a problem that the GOP has created for itself. By wantonly disregarding facts in the pursuit of ideological purity, it has raised a generation of voters who are fact-immune and demand that the ideological purity be taken to its ultimate extreme.

They are reaping the insanity that they sowed, intentionally, in order to remain in power. I have some small sympathy for the poor, hoodwinked Republican voters. I have zero sympathy for the politicians who put themselves into the position of having to do what they want.

The problem, now, is that this craziness has taken over our political debate — even if Trump loses, as I hope he will, the GOP's voters have smelled blood and are in a frenzy. They won't let up until they have been crushed, and they'll divert their energy into winning regional elections, further distancing the Federal government from the states. The result will be total governmental paralysis until we're all swimming to work.

[up] Also, this. Let's not root for Presidential assassinations or nuclear wars, tenk you veddy much.

edited 24th Nov '15 1:58:51 PM by Fighteer

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#105337: Nov 24th 2015 at 2:06:02 PM

okay, okay, just re-colonisation, and I think we may need to spread out the distribution of crazies, it bit us in the arse last time

edited 24th Nov '15 2:06:36 PM by FieldMarshalFry

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A nice butterfly
#105338: Nov 24th 2015 at 2:18:31 PM

Also, this. Let's not root for Presidential assassinations or nuclear wars, tenk you veddy much.

nucular*

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#105340: Nov 24th 2015 at 3:21:35 PM

A member of the Texas Republican party plans to introduce a resolution to push a state secession bill for voters to vote on during the primary on March 1st.

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tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
#105341: Nov 24th 2015 at 3:58:53 PM

[up]Member of Texas Legislature wants to secede, news at 11.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#105342: Nov 24th 2015 at 4:00:58 PM

I always hear people saying that Texas could secede, but I don't know many people who'd actually want it to.

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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#105343: Nov 24th 2015 at 4:17:09 PM

It can't. It can split into up to 5 mini-Texases, but neither Texas nor any of the other 49 states are allowed to secede.

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#105344: Nov 24th 2015 at 4:25:12 PM

Do any of you think about mandating Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates to resign-to-run? Like, in local and state races in FL you are mandated to do that sometimes. It is discussed here, on page 8 of the scanned booklet: http://dos.myflorida.com/media/695284/candidate-and-campaign-treasurer-handbook.pdf. Might make them work harder. It might also sweep away those who aren't truly committed.

If Trump becomes president we work like hell to give him a Dem Congress or at least a Dem Senate.

edited 24th Nov '15 4:26:12 PM by PrinceConor

anyone know why asscaps has that particular name?
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#105345: Nov 24th 2015 at 5:10:32 PM

I think the fair thing is that you can't run for two things at once, including in primaries. Paul Ryan's career should've ended in 2012, damnit.

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#105346: Nov 24th 2015 at 5:44:08 PM

No WAY trump wins the general. No way in hell. Democrats would come out in DROVES just to make sure that didn't happen.

I'm baaaaaaack
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#105347: Nov 24th 2015 at 5:51:54 PM

Trump has ticked off too many vital groups (Hispanics, women, moderates, liberals, sane people) who will definitely not vote for him in sufficient numbers (the GOP needs about 40-45% of the Hispanic vote to win over certain swing states, according to their own research) and will likely vote in droves to keep him out.

The crap he is spewing that might win him the primary (if the RNC doesn't manage to rally the voters behind an establishment candidate, or even settle for Carson) is going to make a general unwinnable for him barring a total Clinton/Sanders implosion or a turnout collapse. Not impossible but highly unlikely.

edited 24th Nov '15 5:52:38 PM by Rationalinsanity

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probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#105348: Nov 24th 2015 at 6:27:56 PM

I'd be less worried about Trump if it weren't that the GOP has majority in both houses.

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#105349: Nov 24th 2015 at 6:44:36 PM

As I said, it is not Trump's chances of winning the Presidency (zero without some kind of insane fraud) that are the problem here, but what winning the primary will mean to and about the Republican base. It will indicate a party that has completely escaped the control of its establishment — that can no longer field sensible national candidates... not that any of the current crop are "sensible", but at least most of them have some degree of political experience, some connection with the RNC, some degree of backing among the policy elite. They are people one might expect to run for the Presidency and have a decent shot at winning.

edited 24th Nov '15 6:45:55 PM by Fighteer

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#105350: Nov 24th 2015 at 6:54:51 PM

The RNC don't want him. They don't. But they're not doing enough to keep him out.

anyone know why asscaps has that particular name?

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