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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#105301: Nov 24th 2015 at 7:15:26 AM

I thought the overwhelming domestic and international response to freedom fries was contemptuous laughter? I doubt many places (and no big chains) actually changed their menus.

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#105302: Nov 24th 2015 at 7:19:04 AM

A few ideologically motivated and/or memetically gullible folks did, like they always do.

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#105303: Nov 24th 2015 at 8:53:13 AM

Trump already endorsed the beating of black protesters. And his followers are fanatical enough to go the extra step...

Oh good, that means they won't vote for him. Despite their early friction with Bernie Sanders, I think we can safely add BLM to the list of American progressives who will not vote for Donald Trump.

He's already pissed off an entire gender and, of course, his entire campaign is built on sticking it to Hispanics. If he keeps burning bridges, maybe there won't be any left for him when elections finally do roll around.

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#105304: Nov 24th 2015 at 8:54:30 AM

Why would they ever vote for him?

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#105305: Nov 24th 2015 at 8:56:11 AM

I have trouble fathoming why anyone would ever vote for him in the first place, but I felt the same way about Bush II: The Revenge so I'm not taking chances.

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#105306: Nov 24th 2015 at 8:58:10 AM

He doesn't have to get votes to do irreparable damage to the country.

The damage he's done to the political and cultural landscape is already enough. He's kicked a proper hornets nest of people who frankly should have been detained by the FBI a long time ago.

Expect more incidents like this. Expect more minorities getting executed by police in the street, more church burnings, more mass shootings, more domestic terror situations.

That's the mark he's gonna leave, not any piece of legislature about walls.

edited 24th Nov '15 8:58:38 AM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
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#105307: Nov 24th 2015 at 8:58:35 AM

In fairness people didn't vote for Bush 2, at least not the first time.

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#105308: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:04:07 AM

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Expect more incidents like this. Expect more minorities getting executed by police in the street, more church burnings, more mass shootings, more domestic terror situations.

Possible Islamic-inspired terrorist attacks?

edited 24th Nov '15 9:04:41 AM by Greenmantle

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#105309: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:09:48 AM

I've seen some people claim that Trump's appeal lies with an appearance of "straight talk". Or the ability to distill complicated problems into ones that can be seemingly solved with easy soundbites (that are more likely to cause catastrophic damage than anything). And then there's are those who want him elected do Judgement Day can be brought around "because humans are innately evil" (and that's why I'm so cynical about my fellow man).

If Trump gets elected, or gets nominated, I would find it more terrifying than Illuminati conspiracy sinks - the US isn't run by a cabal out to enrich themselves, but by the batshit insane.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
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#105310: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:16:30 AM

The cabal who run the US to enrich themselves sunk a lot of money into the batshit insane in a last ditch attempt to stay in power.

And now they've lost complete control of them.

Oh really when?
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#105311: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:17:53 AM

[up] Are you talking about The Illuminati? surprised

[down] Yep. Always assume incompetence and stupidity (in whatever form) over a Grand Conspiracy.

edited 24th Nov '15 9:22:34 AM by Greenmantle

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#105312: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:18:15 AM

the US isn't run by a cabal out to enrich themselves, but by the batshit insane.

Welcome to what I've discovered over years of studying Politics and International Relations, countries/the world aren't run by a grand evil conspiracy, but a motley collection of the stupid, the insane, the stupidly insane and the insanely stupid.

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#105313: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:20:41 AM

Yeah, that's pretty much my understanding too.

The fundamental flaw of any grand, organized NWO conspiracy theory is that it assumes that the world is not, in fact, a colossal clusterf*ck of chaos, fire, and nonsense. This assumption seems fundamentally incompatible with the state of reality.

edited 24th Nov '15 9:20:55 AM by TobiasDrake

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#105314: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:20:51 AM

Expect more incidents like this. Expect more minorities getting executed by police in the street, more church burnings, more mass shootings, more domestic terror situations.

I can't help but feel anyone spurred on by Trump would be likely to have done something like that independent of him anyway. I'm not sure how that's a mark he's going to leave.

edited 24th Nov '15 9:24:15 AM by LSBK

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#105315: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:22:14 AM

No, I can see the logic for it. A lot of people have opinions but it's a rare and select few who can rally folks around those opinions. People who might otherwise have been content to sit in their home and just quietly hate red-heads can be spurred to action by a charismatic leader going, "Don't you all hate red-heads? Don't you wish we could do something about those cherry-topped bastards?! Let's go burn some homes!"

Believing something and being willing to make a stand for it are not necessarily the same thing. People become more brazen when they feel their controversial opinions are validated by the approval of others, especially people in a position of power.

edited 24th Nov '15 9:23:21 AM by TobiasDrake

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#105316: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:23:08 AM

Speaking of, 5 BLM protesters were just shot by white supremacists in Minneapolis. No deaths so far but things are still unfolding.

Oh really when?
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#105317: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:24:11 AM

The fundamental flaw of any grand, organized NWO conspiracy theory is that it assumes that the world is not, in fact, a colossal clusterf*ck of chaos, fire, and nonsense. This assumption seems fundamentally incompatible with the state of reality.

In which everyone — everyone — is a part of. After all, everybody's got an agenda. Or several.

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#105318: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:32:32 AM

Also it's possible that many such people wouldn't be meeting if it wasn't for Trump, if nothing else Trump rallies are probably a great networking opportunity for angry racists. Trump is helping move them from angry lone nuts (who might never do anything) to organised hate groups.

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#105319: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:35:01 AM

Here the BLM story: 5 BLM protestors shot in Minneapolis, (none killed) by 3 white gunmen, apparently from a White Supremacist counter protest

Five Black Lives Matter protesters were shot Monday night in Minneapolis, and police are looking for three white male suspects. BLM organizers claim the shots were fired by a group of white supremacist counter-protesters.

Miski Noor, a representative for Black Lives Matter, told the Minneapolis Star-Tribune that a group of white supremacists had been showing up at the group's encampment for the past several nights. Noor told the newspaper that late Monday the group opened fire on demonstrators who tried to move them away from the protest area, hitting five people.

Minneapolis police confirmed on Twitter that five people sustained non-life-threatening injuries. Police said they were looking for three white male suspects.

Minneapolis Police Department spokesman John Elder later told NBC News that it was "way too early" in the investigation to weigh in on allegations that the gunmen were white supremacists.

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#105320: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:55:35 AM

If trump gets nominated, I hope for a sort of Barry Goldwater moment.

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#105321: Nov 24th 2015 at 10:30:08 AM

One of the shooters was arrested. Good, now catch the rest and throw the book at 'em.

BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#105322: Nov 24th 2015 at 10:50:06 AM

What do you mean about a Barry Goldwater moment?

What I know of Goldwater is that he served under Reagan, was a conservative, but got upset with what the Republican party was turning into and is now considered a liberal by modern US standards.

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#105323: Nov 24th 2015 at 10:56:23 AM

He ran for president against LBJ and lost catstrophically due to the perception of him as a lunatic who would start an atomic war if given the chance.

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#105324: Nov 24th 2015 at 11:01:41 AM

[up][up]Originally Goldwater was the fringe of the conservative/states rights anti-communist, anti-government "Everything was so much better before liberals ruined America with the New Deal" school. In 1964 he won a bitter Republicans primary as the primary voters abandoned moderation in favor of nominating a true believer who railed against the system. The result is one of the all time biggest defeats in presidential elections, as Lyndon B Johnson beat Goldwater 486 to 52 in the election, and a huge turnout came to make sure Goldwater didn't win and voted against every other Republican on the ticket too.

Unfortunately a fair amount of the youth and libertarian types were inspired by Goldwater and 16 years later formed the core of the Reagan Revolution, by which time Goldwater was left to impotently look on from the sidelines, especially as the Evangelical influence that Goldwater was opposed to crept into mainstream Republican politics.

edited 24th Nov '15 11:21:42 AM by TheWanderer

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