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BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#105276: Nov 23rd 2015 at 1:36:45 PM

A lot of ugly stuff will come to light, like what?

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#105277: Nov 23rd 2015 at 1:49:50 PM

$15 million...what.

I don't get the idea of paying for "emotional damages".

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Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#105278: Nov 23rd 2015 at 1:52:31 PM

It's a thing.

Also this is reinforcing my negative view of the whole situation. He got recognition and attention for the issue already. $15 mill seems like a money grab.

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#105279: Nov 23rd 2015 at 1:56:01 PM

RE: Planned Parenthood

This isn't in reference to the same video Fiorina was pointing to regarding the "brutality" of Planned Parenthood, this was the sit-down, lunchtime conversation with a PP higher-up that was being discretely recorded (and rather extensively edited, to my understanding).

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#105280: Nov 23rd 2015 at 2:02:13 PM

It's fairly conventional to sue for insanely high damages when the injury is more-or-less unquantifiable. A jury might just buy it - and even if they don't, you avoid giving them any idea of what you actually want, and they'll probably end up shooting high.

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#105281: Nov 23rd 2015 at 2:26:53 PM

The purpose of the insane damages claim is punitive: to make sure that they never do anything like it ever again lest they get hit with another such lawsuit.

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#105283: Nov 23rd 2015 at 3:27:10 PM

Dallas mayor Mike Rawlings (D) told MSNBC he's more afraid of white men causing mass shootings than Syrian refugees becoming violent.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#105284: Nov 23rd 2015 at 3:28:45 PM

Yeah same here actually. Now more than ever since Trump has kicked the hornets nest.

Oh really when?
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#105285: Nov 23rd 2015 at 4:24:28 PM

Trump already endorsed the beating of black protesters. And his followers are fanatical enough to go the extra step...

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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#105286: Nov 23rd 2015 at 4:56:08 PM

As much as I hate the dude, did he really say "beat the black protesters"? That seems a little too on-the-nose.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#105287: Nov 23rd 2015 at 4:57:58 PM

Nah, he said something to the effect of "they deserve to be roughed up a bit" or something.

In response to a Black Lives Matter protester being beaten by his followers.

Oh really when?
Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#105288: Nov 23rd 2015 at 7:12:08 PM

I thought one was just removed from his rally and hit injured when security pulled him out? I don't recall hearing his supporters beat a man.

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TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#105289: Nov 23rd 2015 at 7:36:28 PM

NYT for you, Joe.

Donald J. Trump said on Sunday he was in favor of the actions of his supporters who reportedly punched and kicked a protester from the Black Lives Matter movement who interrupted Mr. Trump’s campaign rally the previous day in Birmingham, Ala.

“Maybe he should have been roughed up, because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing,” Mr. Trump said in an interview with “Fox and Friends” on Sunday. “This was not handled the way Bernie Sanders handled his problem, I will tell you.” (Mr. Trump was referring to an event earlier this year where Mr. Sanders handed over his microphone to protesters and left the stage.)

Yesterday, Hope Hicks, a spokeswoman for the Trump campaign, told CNN that “the campaign does not condone this type of behavior.”

The protester, Mercutio Southall, 31, who co-founded a Black Lives Matter chapter in Birmingham, described to a local news outlet being physically assaulted after he and his fellow protesters began recording their presence at the event. A cellphone was knocked out of his friend’s hand, he said, and then some punches were exchanged. Mr. Southall said that a Trump supporter threw the first punch, and he then swung back.

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#105290: Nov 23rd 2015 at 7:39:38 PM

Political correctness goes to war with history. I was fine with changing the name of Amherst,and happy about taking the names of Confederate traitors off things, but with Wilson it seems to be a slippery slope. I don't like the guy much, and think he is overrated as a President, but where does this end?

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#105291: Nov 23rd 2015 at 7:53:22 PM

Fair for Its Day does need to be taken into effect, i think.

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A procrastination in of itself
#105292: Nov 23rd 2015 at 7:57:01 PM

Changing names isn't the same as changing history.

Nobody is trying to change any facts, just the name on a building and if a person should be honoured.

The blatant fearmongering in that meant I didn't read it though, it was to painfully and full of massive leaps of logic.

Anyway, so other don't have to suffer. Some group of unstated size wants stuff named after Woodrow Wilson to be changed to being named after something else. On the grounds that Wilson was (like pretty much the entire political establishment at the time) pretty dam racist.

Apparently this means that the US is about to fall into a Stalinist dictatorship where the weather of yesterday can be changed by decree today, or some such bullshit like that.

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#105293: Nov 23rd 2015 at 7:58:05 PM

[up][up] True, though in all due fairness one could argue Wilson was not all that fair for his day, from what I remember he re segregated the Federal government,it had previously had some level of integration. Mind you this is just me remembering off the top of my head, so I could be mistaken.

edited 23rd Nov '15 7:58:19 PM by JackOLantern1337

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#105294: Nov 23rd 2015 at 8:12:07 PM

The article's about Princeton's Wilson PIA school. His contributions to IA are formidable, noble, and long-lasting. However, the "public affairs" part of the school is there too, where he did do the damage to U.S. public service.

Could be worthwhile to change it, or at least to promtoe a pro-inclusion institute within the school.

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#105295: Nov 24th 2015 at 3:14:47 AM

Oh, so you guys have the "this is named after a douchebag, should it?" debates too.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#105296: Nov 24th 2015 at 3:54:11 AM

[up] It's probably much worse over here, we argue about rather some of the people in question, i.e Wilson, were douchebags. I can't imagine their are still schools in Russia named after Lenin, and you changed Stalingrad back to Volagrad, even after Stalingrad become the more well known name.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#105297: Nov 24th 2015 at 4:00:04 AM

It really depends on the atmosphere around it in the US.

If it's a public opinion changed over time thing there is usually one hell of a fight to change it. If it's a reactionary thing it gets changed in days, IE Freedom Fries and all those German named Midwest towns that changed their names during WWI.

edited 24th Nov '15 4:12:56 AM by Memers

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#105298: Nov 24th 2015 at 4:14:33 AM

[up] You know I don't think the name was ever officially changed to Freedom Fries anywhere but the Congressional Cafeteria.

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#105299: Nov 24th 2015 at 6:28:35 AM

I imagine that a few restaurants followed suit, but the change was so clearly a political stunt that it didn't stick.

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Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#105300: Nov 24th 2015 at 6:34:32 AM

Plus it only made the French laugh because in french culture, fries are belgian.

"Mussels and fries" is our stereotypical belgian dish.

edited 24th Nov '15 6:36:23 AM by Medinoc

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