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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Looking at it now, the vice president of James Buchanan (who's widely regarded as the absolute worst president of the US) ran against Abraham Lincoln in 1860.
In terms of bad presidents, I think Buchanan, Franklin Pierce, John Tyler, Andrew Johnson, Warren Harding and Nixon are usually considered the bottom rung.
edited 22nd Nov '15 12:49:49 PM by DrDougsh
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William Henry Harrison, who exists in a unique category of his own.
edited 22nd Nov '15 12:51:29 PM by Greenmantle
Keep Rolling OnSo, Sen. Vitter lost in LA last night. Any thoughts? How liberal will Gov.-elect Edwards be? My opinion is, not overly. He's most likely a conservative Dem who got it easy by getting Vitter as an opponent. Yeah he'll keep Obamacare which is good make no mistake, but between Hillary and Sanders where does he fall? It's Louisiana.
I think the worst presidents are Buchanan and Tyler. Buchanan did nothing to stop the War from coming and Tyler was a traitor who apparently held no respect for the office he once held.
edited 22nd Nov '15 1:06:47 PM by PrinceConor
anyone know why asscaps has that particular name?Also because they HATED Jindal's administration (Obama had a higher approval rating in the state than Jindal did), so as long as Edwards wasn't too liberal, he could get a lot of crossover voters.
Which is unfortunate, but states like LA are lost causes for progressive dems, at least for the near future. There are better red states where running to the left could yield dividends, like Georgia, North Carolina, even Texas with its large urban and minority populations. Katrina kind of screwed the pooch on the Dems in Louisiana, their one big city became that much less significant.
edited 22nd Nov '15 1:21:37 PM by Ogodei
Re: Condy Rice, I've heard the same thing, and only ever from the kind of guy I would classify as "horribly sexist and/or racist."
Someone at work was talking about our espionage programs, and why we don't (supposedly) spy on the British Commonwealth
, something that I hadn't heard of before (and find hard to believe).
This is the club that German chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Francois Hollande say they want to join — or at least, win a similar “no-spying” pact with the U.S. themselves.
It all began with a secret 7-page agreement struck in 1946 between the U.S. and the U.K., the “British-US Communication Agreement,” later renamed UKUSA. At first their focus was the Soviet Union and its Eastern European satellites. But after Canada joined in 1948, and Australia and New Zealand in 1956, the “Five Eyes” was born, and it had global reach. They pledged to share intelligence — especially the results of electronic surveillance of communications — and not to conduct such surveillance on each other. Whiffs of the club’s existence appeared occasionally in the press, but it wasn’t officially acknowledged and declassified until 2010, when Britain’s General Communications Headquarters, or GCHQ, released some of the founding documents. The benefits of membership are immense, say intelligence experts. While the U.S. has worldwide satellite surveillance abilities, the club benefits from each member’s regional specialty, like Australia and New Zealand’s in the Far East. “We practice intelligence burden sharing,” said one former U.S. official. “We can say, ‘that’s hard for us cover, so can you?'” The ease and rapidity of information-sharing among the five “makes it quicker to connect the dots,” said another intelligence veteran. “You can’t underestimate the importance of the common language, legal system and culture,” said another. “Above all, there is total trust.”
That trust extends to not tapping the phones of one another’s leaders and officials. That’s rooted in the belief that when their leaders talk to one another, they do so in full candor. “There is very little we need to know about these countries and their leadership’s views that the leaders wouldn’t tell us themselves, with all honesty,” said a retired official familiar with the program.
A murkier question is whether they’ve also agreed never to spy on each other’s citizens. U.S. officials say that’s part of the deal. Yet there have been reports in the British press — amplified most recently by former NSA contractor and leaker Edward Snowden — that that’s not the case, that the Five Eyes spy on one another’s citizens and share the information to get around laws preventing agencies from spying on their own citizens. Former CIA deputy director John Mc Laughlin insisted to me that this isn’t so. “I’ve never heard of that,” he said. “You would think I would know if that were the case.”
But can we say for sure that unlike Merkel, British Prime Minister David Cameron doesn’t have to worry that his cell phone is bugged? Said a longtime spymaster, “Not by us.”
That should be a Polandball.
Huh, guess it is. http://tinyurl.com/os7zeux
edited 22nd Nov '15 7:26:06 PM by Artificius
"I have no fear, for fear is the little death that kills me over and over. Without fear, I die but once."![]()
It's not that illogical an idea, it would be a waste of a lot of money for five of us to spy on each other, we still keep things secret obviously but intelligence materials is open for all five countries unless labelled otherwise, the CIA guy in London attends meeting of the British intelligence community.
I don't for a moment belive it's held to out of any moral desire to be nice to each other, but it's a very practical agreement that lets us all focus our attention elsewhere.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranCrossposting because I'm mad enough about it...
So the back door buzzes, I go to answer it, and suddenly my backroom is flooded with all these men, more than is needed for delivering three small boxes of books, and they taking pictures of me and my desk, and the guy who gives me the little electronic thing to sign shakes my hand hard and asks me my last name.
It isn't until they leave that my boss tells me that it was Mike Conaway, our U.S. representative. And she says she wonders if them taking pictures of us means that they think we're on their side.
I don't even know this guy and he barges into my workplace snapping photos of me and my stuff, and it is aggravating.
You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stayDid they ask if there were any babies around to kiss?
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothesAnd I was wondering if it was even legal for a congressman to hijack the UPS and come bursting into the back of the library to take pictures...
But my boss said that apparently he was nicer than Rick Perry was when he came into the library and asked her if she could get him a cup of coffee. ;p
It's like...do politicians think they can just go anywhere and ask for anything?
You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stayDon't want to sound paranoid but I heard something about large scale purchases of UPS uniforms over the Web recently. It was mostly a "don't open the door unless they're driving a UPS truck" sort of thing but I'd make sure nothings been screwed with if I were you
I'm pretty sure it was a hoax but this is weird timing.
edited 23rd Nov '15 9:09:52 AM by Joesolo
I'm baaaaaaack

edited 22nd Nov '15 11:59:38 AM by Luminosity