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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#105151: Nov 19th 2015 at 1:37:46 PM

And so i said "oatmeal, are you crazy?"

Did i do good, Tomu?

edited 19th Nov '15 1:38:32 PM by Ogodei

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#105152: Nov 19th 2015 at 2:57:51 PM

WHOEVER POSTS NEXT WILL BE A PAGE TOPPER, BE CAREFUL NOT TO POST SOMETHING THAT MAKES NO SENSE WITHOUT CONTEXT!
That's why I typically edit in a quote of the post I'm replying to when I notice I'm page topper.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#105153: Nov 19th 2015 at 4:16:42 PM

The literal market place of ideas: Americans spend a fortune on their preferred historical narratives. While I am all for diversity, I am not for changing history in the name of some hipster nonsense. History can be funny, tragic, and defiantly morally challenging all on it's own. But our media and schools never show us this, instead they ether feed us simplistic propagandistic "narratives", or, in the case of our schools, give out "social" history, which, while important, bores most to tears and makes it difficult for them to learn.

And above all else people, when you adapt history to fiction, do your fucking research. I can't tell you how often I've seen historical events that could provide genuine drama, tossed aside because some hack writer wanted to throw in a stupid love triangle, or make a point about "Clashing cultures" *Couch Vikings Cough* This applies to both US and World history.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
darksidevoid Anti-Gnosis Weapon from The Frontiers (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Anti-Gnosis Weapon
#105154: Nov 19th 2015 at 10:52:35 PM

Reminder that Sanders' big speech on the meaning of democratic socialism as he considers it was today (now yesterday), but of course nobody covered it in any great detail, although they were certainly happy to compress a half hour speech to three minute clipshows and soundbytes and say that was all you needed to know about it. Thanks media! Very diligent of you!

Granted, I don't know about how cable news covered it, since I forgot to check as it was happening.

edited 19th Nov '15 10:54:10 PM by darksidevoid

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#105155: Nov 20th 2015 at 4:10:34 AM

What did he say?

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#105156: Nov 20th 2015 at 5:25:50 AM

The House has voted to shut out refugees, despite Obama's threat of veto.

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#105157: Nov 20th 2015 at 6:54:00 AM

Surprising exactly nobody who gave the issue any thought whatsoever, attempts by women to do amateur abortions at home has spiked in Texas since it passed a multitude of laws aimed at restricting abortion

Perhaps just slightly more surprising is that US schools are effectively segregated by race.

Certainly what happened in Tuscaloosa was no accident. Nor was it isolated. Schools in the South, once the most segregated in the country, had by the 1970s become the most integrated, largely as a result of federal court orders. But since 2000, judges have released hundreds of school districts, from Mississippi to Virginia, from court-enforced integration, and many of these districts have followed the same path as Tuscaloosa’s—back toward segregation. Black children across the South now attend majority-black schools at levels not seen in four decades. Nationally, the achievement gap between black and white students, which greatly narrowed during the era in which schools grew more integrated, widened as they became less so.

In recent years, a new term, apartheid schools—meaning schools whose white population is 1 percent or less, schools like Central—has entered the scholarly lexicon. While most of these schools are in the Northeast and Midwest, some 12 percent of black students in the South and nearly a quarter in Alabama now attend such schools—a figure likely to rise as court oversight continues to wane. In 1972, due to strong federal enforcement, only about 25 percent of black students in the South attended intensely segregated schools in which at least nine out of 10 students were racial minorities. In districts released from desegregation orders between 1990 and 2011, 53 percent of black students now attend such schools, according to an analysis by ProPublica.

This is by no means a Southern problem either, as many liberals in more progressive parts of the country have fully embraced "white flight" and have no problem with leaving black schools to operate under conditions they would never accept for their own children.

Economists test to find if welfare programs make people lazier and the answer is NO!

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#105159: Nov 20th 2015 at 7:00:09 AM

Especially when he's not even bothering to hide the analogy. Trump is a Fascist, pure and simple. God help us all if we elect him President.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#105160: Nov 20th 2015 at 7:01:06 AM

I know I'm leaving if he wins.

Oh really when?
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#105161: Nov 20th 2015 at 7:02:31 AM

Oh Trump. God ruined a perfectly good asshole when he put teeth in your mouth.

Wait. I've made this joke before with Rubio. Well fuck off I still like it.

edited 20th Nov '15 7:02:45 AM by Aszur

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#105162: Nov 20th 2015 at 7:46:44 AM

When Trump was asked about the Nazi Germany parallel "how is that any different?" his retort was "what do you think?"

Clearly, this is an admission that it's NOT different, and Trump is in the process of growing a new blond square mustache.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#105163: Nov 20th 2015 at 7:56:08 AM

The latest polling in the wake of the Paris massacre has Trump leading Carson by a significant amount. I am relieved to the extent that it looks like we will not be nominating someone for President who can't find Europe on a map. Of course, the fact that Trump might be the one who gets the nod is scary enough in its own right that I think... I hope... it will spur Democratic voters to a fervor not seen in decades to keep him out of power.

Will the history books look on this decade as the one in which we nearly elected our own Hitler?

edited 20th Nov '15 7:56:49 AM by Fighteer

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#105164: Nov 20th 2015 at 7:57:42 AM

If that guy becomes president, he'll probably be the first president not being wanted to visit our country. I mean seriously, Trump's policies are a NPD member's wet dreams come true. You can't say that kind of stuff over here without ending up on a watchlist, even if you try to phrase it different.

Normally, I'd go on about people not learning from history, but I then I remember that the US never had to suffer under a dictatorial regime of any kind, as far as I know.

Genuine question: How much of the political climate - i.e. the fact that people like Trump can say the stuff they say and be applauded for it - can be attributed to the US not having suffered under an authoritarian regime (of any kind) or a devastating war on its own soil (past-civil war)?

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#105165: Nov 20th 2015 at 7:58:59 AM

Not much I don't think. It has more to do with us never really taking the time to sweep out the trash from the Civil War.

Oh really when?
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#105166: Nov 20th 2015 at 8:01:13 AM

[up][up] Valid question. Until you've suffered under the iron fist, you can't know what it's like, and so you may not appreciate the danger of electing someone who will wield it. Something like that was famously brought up in the Dune series, wherein a super-powered individual deliberately makes himself the God Emperor of humanity for thousands of years just to drill in the lesson about enslaving oneself to a tyrant.

More applicably, Revolt In 2100 (by Robert A. Heinlein) is a story that presents an America that gets taken over by a "democratically elected" theocratic tyranny; it takes a few generations of this to convince people that it's kind of a bad idea. (In Methuselah's Children, its in-universe sequel, America is a country dominated by a "live and let live" libertarian ethos wherein everyone subscribes to an explicit social contract when they come of age, or gets kicked out.)

I hope that the fascist demographic can become sufficiently diluted in American politics by liberalism that we don't have to suffer through such a regime so that people can get the point. I cannot be certain that it will happen that way, though.

The problem is that Trump's brand of fascism, while not shared directly by most people, causes raging boners among people who are racist fucks and see him as an opportunity to stick it to Those People. Most Germans weren't fascists, either, but they were afraid of Others, and Hitler exploited those fears.

edited 20th Nov '15 8:25:24 AM by Fighteer

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carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#105167: Nov 20th 2015 at 9:20:52 AM

In other news today, traitor Pollard freed after 28 year imprisonment. I wonder what the Israelis had to offer for him. . .

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#105169: Nov 20th 2015 at 9:48:55 AM

[up][up] Didn't the guy serve a 30 year sentence? Unless it was commuted from "life plus 300" or something, then I'd say he's paid his due and may now do whatever a 30-year convict does to make a new life for himself. Being called "traitor" wherever he goes is probably punishment enough for the rest of his life.

edited 20th Nov '15 9:49:31 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#105170: Nov 20th 2015 at 10:05:33 AM

Pollard is almost certain to move to Israel at some point, where his wife already lives and he's considered a hero.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#105171: Nov 20th 2015 at 10:40:11 AM

Why the fuck is he considered a hero? Spying on an ally and doing so poorly enough to get busted for it?

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#105172: Nov 20th 2015 at 10:45:13 AM

Israel doesn't consider us an ally, they consider us an asset. We're not friends.

Plus there's the whole "Israeli agents and soldiers do no wrong" thing going on over there.

edited 20th Nov '15 10:45:55 AM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#105173: Nov 20th 2015 at 11:36:37 AM

[up] Doesn't America think the same of Israel? Regardless, though, you are correct in that America and Israel are not friends. We have never been friends. Both countries leech off each other.

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#105174: Nov 20th 2015 at 11:39:53 AM

[up]The ones who actually follow foreign affairs understand that it does. Average American who only listens to the rhetoric would be under the mistaken but understandable impression that Israel was America's only real ally for anything ever.

edited 20th Nov '15 11:40:16 AM by FFShinra

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#105175: Nov 20th 2015 at 11:42:03 AM

Many in this nation fetishize the appearance of being Israel's staunchest ally and friend. "We must back our fellow Abrahamists against the onslaught of the black sheep of the Abrahamic family, Islam." There also seems to be a sort of Sunk Cost Fallacy involved with respect to the amount of financial and political support we've given Israel in the past, and there exists to this day a very strong Jewish lobby in Congress that works tirelessly to make it politically toxic to talk badly about them.

edited 20th Nov '15 11:42:19 AM by Fighteer

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