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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Bit anachronistic, that.
@Joesolo: You do know that you can be a secular humanist and still have a religious faith, right?
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"@ Joe Solo
I think it's safe to say that secular humanist beliefs play a much larger role in Sanders' life than the Torah.
edited 3rd Nov '15 9:14:29 AM by TheWanderer
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It's certainly the obvious choice, but I am not sure that Sanders would accept a VP role.
Well far be it from me to ignore info dumps and his friends over quotes from him saying he is Jewish though not particularly religious.
And if he can be both I don't see why the poster I responded to would have said he is a secular humanist in response to discussion about his Jewish faith
edited 3rd Nov '15 9:25:16 AM by Joesolo
I'm baaaaaaackI am not sure how much Sanders could get done as a VP, really. Other than getting him a job, I mean :P
Bill clinton would be a hilious VP though if only to see the conspiracy theories about the clinton family running the country like a theocracy
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
If he's ineligible to be elected a third time, then what even is the point in running again? It's one of those practical things where one thing being against the rules means the other thing doesn't need to be explicitly against the rules because pointless because of the first thing.
So... not even sure why you're bringing that up.
Edit: looked it up. While technically he could be vp (but who the fuck would vote for that anyway?) the ban on being directly elected for more than two terms has nothing to do with them being consecutive terms.
http://www.infoplease.com/askeds/presidential-term-limits.html
edited 3rd Nov '15 10:40:44 AM by AceofSpades
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The text of the 22nd amendment
begins "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice". (The rest is pretty much just covering edge cases.) So the limit isn't "two consecutive terms", it's "two terms, period".
edited 3rd Nov '15 10:40:08 AM by NativeJovian
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.Sanders would run into the same issue that Clinton did with Obama, to many people would want to ticket reversed and it would risk a power struggle.
I mean he'd make Clinton pretty much impossible to impeach/assassinate, but that would be it, he doesn't have the connections that Biden did.
That says elected though, he wouldn't be elected, he'd inherit.
edited 3rd Nov '15 10:45:41 AM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranDoesn't it say that nobody can be elected to VP who is not also eligible to be President?
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Julian Castro is really the only choice for Clinton. Young, Latino, cultivated by the Obama Administration by appointing him to HUD, also from Texas, an important point for incursion against the GOP's Solid South. Sanders as VEEP doesn't get you much, unless the Clinton campaign thinks they *need* him to energize young whites, which she's been doing a good job of engaging progressive millenials via media, if not so much via policy.
It would be interesting in the scenario where Trump gets the nom, and he picks "Sheriff Joe" from Arizona, infamous for his hardnosed (and illegally abusive, but it never sticks) treatment of mexican migrants, to then see Sheriff Joe and Castro in the veep debate.
V Ps are elected, though. Not directly to the Presidency, but they still have to be on the Presidential ballot. The only person who could have exploited that loophole to get more than two terms would be Gerald Ford.
On another note, something just occurred to me about the Republican primary debate. Do you suppose anyone involved in the process has realized that, by all of them getting together and agreeing not to participate in debates unless their demands are met, the Republican candidates are practicing collective bargaining?
edited 3rd Nov '15 11:05:25 AM by RavenWilder
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Wouldn't that indicate rather strongly that Castro is being groomed for a future presidential run? Right now hardly anybody knows who he is.
The irony has been noted, yes. Of course, the GOP candidates are not employees of the RNC, so the analogy is not perfect.
edited 3rd Nov '15 11:01:03 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"The relevant text is the 12th amendment
, specifically "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States".
Google reveals that this question came up during the 2008 election
, too. Apparently it's a legal gray area, depending on whether being ineligible to be elected President (per the 22nd amendment) makes you ineligible to hold the office of President (per the 12th amendment).
It's unclear enough that if a former two-term president like Clinton or Obama did run for vice president, they'd almost certainly be sued for it — which is probably reason enough by itself to not do it.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.Yeah, I can't see that ever working. And Bill Clinton has no desire to be President again.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

@"he's a secular humanist" ah, no, he's not. He's Jewish. He's said he's Jewish.
edited 3rd Nov '15 8:52:08 AM by Joesolo
I'm baaaaaaack