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#104376: Nov 2nd 2015 at 2:12:57 PM

Nor was it when Sheen attempted to use it, although it generated a great deal of hilarity.

edited 2nd Nov '15 2:13:08 PM by Fighteer

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#104377: Nov 2nd 2015 at 2:34:51 PM

Exhibit A.

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#104378: Nov 2nd 2015 at 6:32:16 PM

Honestly, I don't want to choose between Clinton and Sanders. I want both of them.

It's like back then with Obama and Clinton. I was also "why don't you two just run together???"

But seriously, if America picks neither (and votes in Trump), I'll be humming Chopin's Funeral March.

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#104379: Nov 2nd 2015 at 6:37:19 PM

[up]Honestly, I'd be too busy fleeing to Canada to hum it.tongue

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#104380: Nov 2nd 2015 at 6:51:59 PM

I'd stick it out because there's no way he'd win reelection, short of starting a war with Russia, or China. Or both. War presidents tend to stay in office.

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#104381: Nov 2nd 2015 at 7:06:55 PM

If Trump gets elected president, a time traveler will come back from the future in order to ensure such a horrible future does not come to pass.

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#104382: Nov 2nd 2015 at 7:56:51 PM

So he won't get elected, got it.

edited 2nd Nov '15 7:57:27 PM by Joesolo

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#104383: Nov 2nd 2015 at 7:59:06 PM

Either that, or Time Travel isn't possible.

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#104384: Nov 2nd 2015 at 8:05:31 PM

Well we know you can go forward, backwards is the question that's probably answered "no". And anyone who's qualified to dispute that question is not likely to be posting here tongue

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#104385: Nov 2nd 2015 at 9:18:02 PM

As I recall a wormhole created by a sufficient gravitational warping of spacetime could send you to a point in time and space that is chronologically earlier than when you entered.

Such extreme gravitational forces would only be found in black holes though.

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#104386: Nov 2nd 2015 at 9:46:01 PM

[up]So, to travel back into the past, all you gotta' do is get sucked into a black hole, suffer a horrible agonizing death due to ridiculously severe compression, and then hope that you not only wind up in a earlier point in space-time, but also that you were somehow able to defy reality itself and rise from the grave?

Sounds legit.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#104387: Nov 3rd 2015 at 12:03:06 AM

Alternatively, Trump gets elected, and discovers that the President doesn't actually have the authority to do all that much, not without the approval of Congress. And getting the approval of other politicians is a bridge Trump has been busy burning.

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#104388: Nov 3rd 2015 at 3:26:23 AM

[up][up]Well theoretically it can be used to transport information through time but anything more complex than atoms and sub atomic particles will have a rather unpleasant time.

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#104389: Nov 3rd 2015 at 4:14:49 AM

Actually black holes are still poorly understood. Theoretically, you would never experience going through the Event Horizon; time would slow down as you approached it until you experienced all of eternity—although it's not clear how hat jives with black holes evaporating over immense amounts of time. And that's in a galaxy-rated mega-blackhole. Smaller one-star black holes, much simpler deal, you'll die by spaghettification way before you get close to the EH, as the gravity on the parts of you closer to the hole would be immensely stronger than that on the parts that are further away. Ouch.

Yeah, neutron stars and black holes are frickin' weird.

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#104390: Nov 3rd 2015 at 4:21:43 AM

Anyway, where we're going we don't need eyes to see.

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#104391: Nov 3rd 2015 at 4:26:46 AM

That movie was terrible. The only reason it merits mention is because it's an accidental Warhammer40k prequel.

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#104392: Nov 3rd 2015 at 4:32:34 AM

Warhammer 40k... bleh.

Anyway, why do people actually want Clinton?

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#104393: Nov 3rd 2015 at 4:37:30 AM

Well she's better than the Republicans, and if she ran would have a lot of support, already being a household name and such.

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#104394: Nov 3rd 2015 at 4:38:46 AM

(Washington Post) The format and content of upcoming Republican debates became increasingly uncertain on Monday after Donald Trump’s campaign said the real estate mogul would negotiate his terms directly with television executives instead of as part of a joint effort with his rivals.

(Slate) The GOP's Presidential Condenters are hijacking their own debate

In a Godfather-esque gathering of rival political concerns, representatives of the Republican presidential campaigns gathered in an Alexandria, Virginia Hilton on Sunday evening to draw up a list of conditions for their participation in future presidential debates. The campaigns still are all het up about the completely unfair questioning that business-Republican network CNBC subjected them to last week, such as, Marco Rubio, your tax plan is really good for the wealthy, no? or, Ben Carson, why were you in bed with this snake-oil company for so many years? If the moderators had asked fair questions, see, the candidates wouldn’t have been forced to lie. What’s so complicated about that?…

The campaigns and their consiglieres put together a list of demands to which future debate hosts must agree to ensure the candidates’ participation. The finalized version, as obtained by the Washington Post, is hilarious in its granularity. Not once but twice does the document inveigh against “lightening [sic] rounds,” which must be banned “because of their frivolousness or ‘gotcha’ nature, or in some cases both.” The letter also implores networks to agree not to “ask the candidates to raise their hands to answer a question,” “allow candidate-to-candidate questioning,” “allow props or pledges by the candidates,” “show an empty podium after a break (describe how far away the bathrooms are),” or “leaves microphones on after breaks.” What about allowing hot mics in the distant bathrooms? There’s no clear rule on that, though it would certainly violate the spirit of the letter…

What was the point of having the RNC serve as middleman in the first place? To navigate the party through the primary process in a way that didn’t damage the eventual nominee too much before the general election. Priebus was able to cut the number of debates roughly in half, and he ensured that no mischievous entity like MSNBC was granted hosting duties. The candidates have found his efforts lacking, though, and are using the leverage that’s available to them as a group to run the show themselves. So far, it looks like they’ll use that power to ensure that they don’t, for even a hot second, have to factor general-election considerations into their primary strategies…

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#104395: Nov 3rd 2015 at 4:58:10 AM

@Luminosity: We discussed Clinton a page or two back, so feel free to check on that if you want. It helps to know, in answering your question, where you lie on the left-right spectrum. In a nutshell, she is a center-left, establishment candidate. She has unparalleled experience in government, has plenty of foreign policy experience, has the endorsement and backing of friggin' everybody important in the Democratic institution, and is one hell of a debater. That she would be the first female President in our nation's history is not germane to her ability to serve that office but is a great bonus.

Before the election really began, there was some concern as to whether she would go whole hog on the centrism and try to run as a corporate Democrat, building bridges with the GOP like Obama tried to, and generally ignoring demands from progressives, but there were hints that her true allegiance was much farther left than her public persona. Thankfully, this has proven true — whether it's due to Bernie Sanders' influence in the primary or her own sense that the time is right, she's taken unabashedly progressive positions on wages, wealth inequality, climate change, gun control, gay rights, and so on.

It should be pointed out that, unlike on the other side of the aisle, there is no significant difference on fundamental matters of policy between any of the major Democratic candidates. Sanders and Clinton (and O'Malley) all agree on the basic problems facing our country and on the basic elements of the solutions to those problems. The difference is that Sanders has (for his whole career) gone whole-hog and unabashedly supported full liberalism, whereas Clinton has drifted with the political tides to some extent.

Whether you approve of either depends on how you feel about the need for gradual versus revolutionary change in Washington. There is legitimate concern about whether Sanders would win enough support for his agenda to be elected or to get anything he wants done while in office.

Clinton's image has been tarnished somewhat by manufactured scandals (Benghazi! Emails!), but those mainly serve as bait for the media and as right-wing gotcha messaging; there is absolutely zero evidence of genuine wrongdoing on her part.

She is, without question in my mind, the most qualified person in this country to become President who is currently running for that office. I would also be highly pleased with a Sanders presidency.

edited 3rd Nov '15 5:24:57 AM by Fighteer

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#104396: Nov 3rd 2015 at 5:17:21 AM

"Anyway, why do people actually want Clinton?"

She has the best chance of winning, and if she wins, she will be in office at the right time to appoint a couple Supreme Court justices. That is more important than anything, right now.

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#104397: Nov 3rd 2015 at 5:21:20 AM

At this point I have no doubts the next US president will be another Democrat, but I am just wanting to see who.

Probably Clinton but Bernie getting as far as he is going now at least shows that at least there is a better diversification of candidates.

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#104398: Nov 3rd 2015 at 5:25:33 AM

At this point I have no doubts the next US president will be another Democrat

Just as long as that sentiment doesn't lead to lower Democratic turnout...

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#104399: Nov 3rd 2015 at 6:08:13 AM

Glenn Beck's network The Blaze offered to host one of the GOP debates in lieu of the canceled NBC one. Trump, meanwhile, is fighting against the debate on Telemundo.

[up] It should be easy enough to create a sense of urgency. If the next president is a two-termer, they could get up to 4 supreme court justices. Possibly 5 if Clarence Thomas has more distinct health problems.

edited 3rd Nov '15 6:09:50 AM by Ogodei

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#104400: Nov 3rd 2015 at 6:34:47 AM

Anyway, why do people actually want Clinton?

She is not Trump, she has a chance to win, and most importantly, she is not Trump.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes

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