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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Yeah that seems like the one, thank you.
I wanted specifically to check if Fiorina's numbers were right since they seemed absolutely batshit insane...and they are basically the first thing debunked in that article, lel.
I wonder if banana slips might make the next Republican debate funnier.
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothesWhen Carson is asked about the pharmaceutical companies raising prices ridiculously high, he says its because there's too much government regulation. What??
Why do these people IN the government talk about how the government is this bad entity that's grown too big for its own good? And they keep using really bad debate tactics like ad hominem and the association fallacy...
Well, they are all heavy proponents on the state thing. "When I was on my state..." "On Ohio..." "New jersey has.." blah blah blah.
Basically, since they need to prop themselves up, they need to talk well about states and to do that, since their numbers alone wont suffice, they also have to demonize another state, and Washington is the obvious choice because it is the Capital.
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
What else would you expect them to say? For example, a person who believes that government should shrink is probably going to spout a lot about how the government's become too big lately. Likewise, a person who wants to cut taxes is going to say that he wants to cut taxes.
edited 29th Oct '15 9:52:33 AM by Protagonist506
Leviticus 19:34But they don't really believe that "government should be small". That's a red herring.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"They're just kind of buzzphrases that people can all latch on to.
Because it's the basic ideas that bind people. And they like knowing where somebody stands on issues like those.
As for any new issues? Well those will become buzzphrases in the next few years.
You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stayDoesn't the growth in the north hemisphere also slows when the winter is coming?
Inter arma enim silent legesThanks to mass transit, I found some time to read that Republican debate.
I noticed Fiorina hammers a lot on "Big government serves Big Money". Unfortunately, unless we all want to live in plutocracies, we need a counterpower to Big Money, and a small government isn't anymore capable of that than a big one infiltrated by Big Money. The solution is not to shrink the government, it's to heal it by taking big money out of it.
Unfortunately, in the American case I haven't yet seen a better solution than having a Dem presidency outlive a conservative justice and replace him with one that would vote to overturn Citizens United... and for my own country, I don't see any solution at all.
"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."And man, the Republicans are getting more and more thin skinned, ain't they.
This is almost certainly old news
, but I was legitimately unnerved the way Ben Carson talked about how he used to go after people with bats and bricks and knives. I would cast him as a serial killer in a movie, I swear to God.

But whether they're true or not is irrelevant, what matters is if voters think they are.
Facts are subjective in American politics after all.
Oh really when?