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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Well, he's welcome to try for the nomination again after he's started wearing long pants and is old enough to drink.
edited 23rd Oct '15 7:12:06 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Considering that the Chinese, even if they are building a train here, can't supplant us the way they're doing in Africa to the citizens there, I don't see how it's humiliating at all. The train is being built here. It's highly unlikely to have any long term employees except Americans. Americans are the ones that are going to be using it. And it's a JOINT venture, so it's not just the Chinese that are investing in the damn thing. So long run, it's Americans that are going to benefit from having this thing finally being built.
Frankly I hope this is going to prove the usefulness of high speed rail and encourages both private and federal funding for more high speed rail. (We're just on the verge of maybe having a private venture build a high speed rail between Dallas and Houston here, no Chinese investment as far as I know right now. They've put down the initial cost and started the necessary research for it.)
And quite frankly... this doesn't actually feel humiliating. I very much doubt that embarrassing us is on anyone's mind. What would even be the point in doing that to us, when doing so could lose China a potential business partner in the long run?
Embarrassing us is indeed not what the Chinese want. Still, the more influence they gain inside our economy the more we will have to appease them. How long before we are rounding up dissidents and shipping them back to Beijing in the name of this "friendship." It sounds laughable now, but an economically powerful China seemed laughable only a few days ago.
Back to US politics, Bernie Sanders is planing on giving a speech defining what Democratic Socialism is, and contrasting it with the "American prospective." He will also focus on his time as a mayor.
I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.Jack you need to chill. We can crash China overnight if need be.
They're infinitely more dependent on us than we are on them. Moves like this is China coming to us on hands and knees begging us to outsource to them so they can stay in the game.
We can make these trains ourself, we're just lazy. China on the other hand needs to make stuff for us. Without our outsourcing they don't have an economy at all. Quite simply their whole nation is built around serving the West.
Really sad actually.
edited 23rd Oct '15 7:38:58 AM by LeGarcon
Oh really when?Jack, put down the Kool-Aid
regarding China. Seriously.
edited 23rd Oct '15 11:09:53 AM by TheWanderer
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |Again, the train, if it indeed gets built, will be inside America and benefit Americans. China is not going to gain a foothold in our economy through this that we can't just get rid of. What with the thing being in America and the US being able to... I unno, buy out any foreign companies?
In any case, foreign partnerships don't actually legally obligate us to appease them on anything whatsoever. Particularly if something egregious that involves the US directly happens. International relations and politics are more complicated than "hey I've invested in private businesses in your country so you need to give us this thing over here." Doesn't work that way. You've admitted to getting a little wound up before, and you're doing it again.
edited 23rd Oct '15 8:12:27 AM by AceofSpades
When thinking about economic apocalypse theories, ask five "how" questions.
"How does China deal damage?" "They stop building trains we've become reliant on." "How do they stop building the trains?" "They just tell their train builders to stop." "How do they deal with the damage dealt to their own economy from that?"
Etc. Make sure you have the whole process mapped out. USUALLY you'll eventually come to a point where you can't answer one of those how questions.
This train thing...
Let me get this straight. It is basically the fearmongerers and Red Scare kinda people in the U.S being afraid China will do the exact same thing the U.S did to Panama?
Despite it being impossible?
edited 23rd Oct '15 8:44:37 AM by Aszur
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothesWell, there's something to be said about a candidate with a truly spotless record.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.![]()
I doubt it. Ambassador is the very last place that Webb should be put, the man's tendency to go on at the mouth and temper would make him uniquely ill suited to the job. And why Sanders would use a former Reagan figure who talked about being a fan of Margaret Thatcher as a representative for his government to other countries is beyond me. Maybe a position in the military, which is where Webb is probably most at home, but who even knows if that would be a good mix considering Webb's past disdain toward women in the military and the push that every branch (except the Marines) are making towards fully integrating women and officially making them front line troops.
Let me get this straight. It is basically the fearmongerers and Red Scare kinda people in the U.S being afraid China will do the exact same thing the U.S did to Panama?
Despite it being impossible?
Yeah, basically. And for those of us old enough to remember the days when everyone was freaking out about how the Japanese were about to own the entire country and take over the world, it's a pretty tired and nonsensical retread of the past. A silly obsession that someone, somewhere, somehow, might however slightly be about to get the better of you and leverage it into destroying everything good about God's #1 Country! (Insert proud salute to the flag while a single tear falls here)
edited 23rd Oct '15 10:08:37 AM by TheWanderer
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |edited 23rd Oct '15 12:19:33 PM by tclittle
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."There is something seriously wrong with the grammar of that statement, making it impossible to parse.
Edit: I get it now. Good on him, totally unsurprising that such a group exists.
edited 23rd Oct '15 12:21:15 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

Aww....
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"