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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#103551: Oct 16th 2015 at 7:37:49 AM

The 2008 campaign was only novel because no earlier candidates had attempted to motivate people using the internet

Isn't that the definition of novel? tongue

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Oh Trump! You are the grouchiest toddler to ever don a business suit! Keep amusing me!

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#103552: Oct 16th 2015 at 7:38:22 AM

[up][up] No, but banning certain guns purely for looking scary is the current policy of the Democratic front runner, so there's still a rather large hurdle to be climbed.

[up]X3 As the current democratic front runner wants to ban hunting rifles that don't require reloading after each shot and have a flash suppressor and a folding stock (two things one could easily find helpful while hunting), it's not that insane a point.

edited 16th Oct '15 7:43:00 AM by Silasw

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#103553: Oct 16th 2015 at 7:46:21 AM

[up] And gun enthusiasts capitalize on it by buying up "scary-looking" guns to troll those Democrats. It's a never-ending cycle.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#103554: Oct 16th 2015 at 8:02:01 AM

[up]x4 I thought I was liberal but yeah those guys are kinda nuts.

I personally am for banning military quality stuff. As well as licensing all guns and gun use like cars, like require a person to say visit a gun range and take a test to prove that you can actually handle a gun right and handle gun safety, storage and upkeep. You want a gun? Prove that you can handle it basically, those who can't pass can't own a gun or get arrested for it.

edited 16th Oct '15 8:30:56 AM by Memers

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#103555: Oct 16th 2015 at 8:05:11 AM

To be clear, I believe that a gun-free society is safer in toto then a gun-owning society. However, the process of getting there is far too complex for a simple "ban all guns NOW" approach to work.

In the near term, handguns are responsible for the vast majority of gun crimes; regulating them would be far more effective at reducing total deaths than regulating "assault rifles".

edited 16th Oct '15 8:05:37 AM by Fighteer

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Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#103556: Oct 16th 2015 at 8:25:38 AM

Automatic weapons have already been tightly regulated to the point where they are extremely difficult to acquire without a special license. I've explained this probably about a dozen times.

Also, the "we don't need X weapon that looks scary for hunting" argument is getting really stale.

edited 16th Oct '15 8:26:11 AM by Aprilla

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#103557: Oct 16th 2015 at 8:28:04 AM

Regulate bullets instead! Go Wonka on them!

"Only one out of every hundred thousand bullets is not a fake!"

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#103558: Oct 16th 2015 at 8:29:07 AM

Really, for hunting you don't really need semi-automatic either.

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Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#103559: Oct 16th 2015 at 8:32:16 AM

Well, of course. You don't even need rifled firearms if you really want to take this to its logical extreme. You can hunt with a smooth-bore musket if we're talking pure necessity.

The point is, as already noted, that most of our firearm-related problems are related to handguns, so all of this really seems like a moot point.

edited 16th Oct '15 8:56:34 AM by Aprilla

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#103560: Oct 16th 2015 at 8:39:27 AM

I think we need to treat guns like we do cars. Make people pass a safety course before they get their license. Give learners permits for taking your kids hunting where there needs to be a licensed adult with them at all times they have the gun. Register and track them the same way you do cars.

I don't think banning them is the answer, especially not in rural areas where people do actually use their guns to get food and to protect livestock from coyotes. Pistols should be much more restricted than they are though.

edited 16th Oct '15 8:41:13 AM by shimaspawn

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#103562: Oct 16th 2015 at 8:42:48 AM

[up][up]That's what I've been pushing for a while. To continue that comparison, I don't need my sports car or sport bikes, but there is a license you have to get for a motorcycle, and juveniles are prohibited from operating a motorcycle above a certain engine displacement (250-400 cubic centimeters). Likewise, if I want to operate my sports car at its full potential, there are sanctioned racing competitions I can attend to do so. If I do the same thing on I-40, that's on me if I get my car impounded.

edited 16th Oct '15 8:45:17 AM by Aprilla

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#103563: Oct 16th 2015 at 8:44:15 AM

Why does no one like my Wonka approach of things :(

Imagine the oompa loompas churning out licorice bullets to a silly song with references to Dick Cheney

Totally worth

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#103564: Oct 16th 2015 at 8:49:37 AM

You can hunt with a compound bow if you really want to feel like you're getting back to nature, but even in my most extreme moments of wanting to rid the general populace of firearms, I have made specific allowances for hunting and "ranching".

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#103565: Oct 16th 2015 at 9:09:46 AM

I can safely say that the average gun owner is in favor of licenses and other checks for owning a gun like a safety training.

It's the NRA that keeps shitting on everyone.

For people not needing a semi automatic rifle for hunting. People don't need a lot of stuff anyway and still buy them simply because they want or enjoy them, so the "you don't need X to do Y" can fall under a lot of stuff and gets moot fast.

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#103566: Oct 16th 2015 at 9:28:32 AM

"But cars aren't a Second Amendment right, trololololol."

You laugh, but I've run into people using that as serious logic.

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#103567: Oct 16th 2015 at 11:18:10 AM

It's the same logic used to justify things because "they are in the Bible". I have an authority that says so, so nyah nyah.

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#103569: Oct 16th 2015 at 2:03:15 PM

[up][up] Well from a legal prospective, the Constitution is the highest authority in the United States, and the Bible is not. How much power doe it give for people to regulate firearms? Like it or not all our laws must conform to this thing.

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Mopman43 Since: Nov, 2013
#103570: Oct 16th 2015 at 2:24:32 PM

[up][up]About time someone is taking the fight to those assholes.

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#103571: Oct 16th 2015 at 2:34:36 PM

[up][up][up] Took us long enough.

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Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#103572: Oct 16th 2015 at 2:38:51 PM

I obviously can't prove it, but special operations forces have likely been in the area much earlier than that.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#103573: Oct 16th 2015 at 3:12:43 PM

The call of duty guy?

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Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#103574: Oct 16th 2015 at 3:19:28 PM

lol, wut?

Macho Man Randy Savage?

edited 16th Oct '15 3:21:00 PM by Aprilla

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#103575: Oct 16th 2015 at 3:20:26 PM

Was a joke. Because. You know. Those Medal of Dutycommandhonor people are basically the guys who single handedy bring wars to end because freedom

edited 16th Oct '15 3:20:45 PM by Aszur

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