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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Yeah, that happens a lot.
I think I get annoyed with conservatives "owning" the gun debate for the same reason I get annoyed with liberals "owning" the environmentalism debate. These are issues that should transcend partisan boundaries, but they don't because specific identify traits are affixed to the issues.
As an Oregon resident who enjoyed having fun gun laws in a blue state these last couple of weeks have caused me disappointment in every facet. Sadness for the victims, less poignant but still present sadness that my day at the range will be inconvenienced by 10 round mags in the future, hatred for neo-Nazi's for being murderous fuckheads, hatred for rednecks making the whole thing worse...
edited 10th Oct '15 10:37:27 AM by Canid117
"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des UrsinsI swear, the Tea Party keeps resembling our Golden Dawn
more and more. From the xenophobia, to the gun/murder fetish and the insane levels of cognitive dissonance.
They are just more high-class/intellectual. It's pretty scare, to be honest.
edited 10th Oct '15 10:54:32 AM by LogoP
It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.I have no intention of watching a South African Nazi recruitment video.
"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des UrsinsI've been having my position on guns wavering lately. I used to find the "we need guns to protect ourselves from the government, the way the founding fathers intended" arguments very compelling, but I just don't believe it anymore. We have the most guns in the world bar none, more guns than we have citizens, but we still have serious problems with police discrimination and abuses of power. I mean, in New Jersey they don't even need a warrant to toss your car anymore. And us having or not having guns won't change that, because we don't pull guns on cops. We just don't. Even if someone had a gun when Eric Garner or Walter Scott or anyone else was getting killed, they wouldn't pull it on those cops. And if they did, they'd be killed. And if they were killed, the same conservative gun-lovers who say they need their guns to protect their rights would stay behind the police for shooting them.
Personally, I follow the 'police as public' idea, and think that police and civilians should have a sort of 'equal access' to guns (that is, if a weapon is issued to police, it should be legal for civilians to own). So, in this sense I can be said to be pro-police and pro-gun.
Though I suppose I'm probably more pro-establishment than most of the right at this point-and very strongly against armed resistance to the government as it is now. Hell, I'd probably advocate counterrevolutionary militias at this point.
edited 10th Oct '15 3:56:46 PM by Protagonist506
Leviticus 19:34

So apparently this shit didn't stop when Charlton Heston died then.
"Yup. That tasted purple."