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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#102876: Oct 8th 2015 at 12:28:05 PM

What else would a majority be?

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#102877: Oct 8th 2015 at 12:29:02 PM

List-voting would limit the amount of campaigning that rank-and-file House members have to do, because it wouldn't be all on them to defend their seat.

I still like the idea of a hybrid list system. The idea of our constituency-based voting system with districts is that someone from your locality is representing you in Washington. Gerrymandering subverts that idea, but so would straight list-voting. It could be something like both major parties field candidates for House elections in each congressional district, but they put them in a list, and the number sent is proportional to the votes the party got in the statewide popular.

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#102878: Oct 8th 2015 at 12:32:40 PM

Revising the constitution seems like a very dangerous idea.

Certain groups would love a chance to sneakily try to remove the full faith and credit clause for example.

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#102879: Oct 8th 2015 at 12:55:57 PM

The two things I'd love to see...

1) A "none of the above" option for elections, to allow those that don't like any of the available candidates (or sole candidate) to express their disdain without possibly spoiling the ballot and "losing" their vote.

2) A politician with the guts to propose revoking the 2nd Amendment... only to oppose it as well, then use the resulting failure to pass as a way to get meaningful gun control legislation off the ground, as hopefully the fears of "They'll take our guns!" will have been abolished by then.

Alternatively, politicians going to the gun industry and saying "Okay, either you help us craft some meaningful reforms that would benefit everyone involved, or we'll revoke your protection from lawsuits by families of those killed in shooting sprees. Your choice."

edited 8th Oct '15 12:56:17 PM by ironballs16

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#102880: Oct 8th 2015 at 1:06:39 PM

[up][up] I doubt there's much overlap between the people wanting to alter the 2nd amendment and the people wanting to remove full faith and credit.

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#102881: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:07:57 PM

But it's not the Constitution, it's the fundamentals of our individualist ignorant crass and backward culture that prevent this country from falling in line with the rest of the modern world. The Constitution is merely the biggest symbol of this old America, and therefore it must be abolished if America is to ever be remade as a European state.

Edit: Oh and it was deliberately designed to make change difficult.

edited 8th Oct '15 2:08:38 PM by JackOLantern1337

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#102882: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:09:35 PM

I don't like Europe. It's too far to the right while pretending to be to the left, if you know what I mean.

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Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#102883: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:11:32 PM

Really? You mean with all the xenophobia?

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#102884: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:12:36 PM

[up][up] Yes but at least they have less racism, fewer people are superstitious, and their entertainment is sophisticated(or so I've heard) compared to the cheep crap this country produces, and also they don't have regular shootings like we have here in the good ol US of A.

edited 8th Oct '15 2:12:46 PM by JackOLantern1337

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#102885: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:13:05 PM

Europe paid lip service to left wing economic ideals since the mid 20th century whilst quietly breeding a new wave of right-wing would-be autocrats who wore the socialist masks as disguises. Now they've ripped the masks off and the people are stuck with them.

They're better than the U.S. in a variety of ways, to be sure, mostly on social issues. Their leaders have set about changing all that, though.

edited 8th Oct '15 2:14:03 PM by Fighteer

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#102886: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:13:48 PM

[up]X4 Not at all. Especially when you're characterising an entire continent in one go.

edited 8th Oct '15 2:14:01 PM by Silasw

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#102888: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:17:38 PM

[up][up] I mean western Europe. Honestly I don't know if we should copy Europe, but all I know is that our government and culture need to be destroyed and remade, and Europe seems like the best option for copying, it isn't like we haven't stolen their innovations before.

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#102889: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:19:23 PM

Government is good, the problems here are cultural.

Oh really when?
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#102890: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:21:25 PM

Destroying and remaking your country as a copy of another region of the world that you think that is better. That seems to be a little too....Euro....phile.

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#102892: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:23:15 PM

[up][up][up][up]You really got to stop with the negativity. We are not, have not been, and likely never will be the worst country in the world. I can accept that there are changes to be made, but that is the wrong attitude to go about it, I feel.

edited 8th Oct '15 2:23:46 PM by Mopman43

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#102893: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:24:08 PM

[up][up][up] Russia and Turkey did it, most of Europe's former colonies did it to a certain extent, thought in a lot of ways they didn't have much of a choice in the matter. I don't see why we can't do it. Or hell we could look elsewhere to China and Russia. But the current situation is untenable. And it's time we stop living in the shadow of a bunch of treacherous slave owning fops form the 18th century, and enter the modern age.

edited 8th Oct '15 2:24:19 PM by JackOLantern1337

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#102894: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:24:32 PM

[up][up][up] I believe Fighter is talking specifically about the EU.

edited 8th Oct '15 2:24:47 PM by Silasw

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#102895: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:24:33 PM

Europe has some good ideas but becoming a clone of them isn't really the way to go. Of course this is a rather pointless discussion. We're not going to be able to remake our entire society in such a way.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#102896: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:27:26 PM

I would advocate copying Northern Europe, if you had to pick something.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#102897: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:27:36 PM

[up][up][up]Same difference

edited 8th Oct '15 2:27:57 PM by Xopher001

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#102898: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:29:41 PM

When I convince the gullible fools esteemed voters gullible fools of this world to appoint me king, everything will be Scandinavia. I've heard good things about Scandinavia.

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#102899: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:29:57 PM

Meanwhile, the rest of the third world is crying about trying to be more like the U.S.

Notice us, U.S-senpai.

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#102900: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:31:59 PM

Well the EU (and more specifically the euro zone), I'd guess it's because decisions are made by people who are either not elected, or are not elected by the whole zone but instead the locally elected local leaders of particular regions.

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