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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Doing any serious rewrites or amendments concerned gun rights and the Constitutions is going to be extremely difficult as long as the Oath Keepers are around.
If memory serves they were originally founded as one of those nutjob groups with plans to go full insurgent should any unfavorable gun legislature pass and grew from there.
edited 8th Oct '15 5:58:05 AM by LeGarcon
Oh really when?The issue is whether the various state legislatures would pass such an amendment. I am utterly unconcerned about the Oath Keepers as a revolutionary force; what I am worried about is how local politics would affect such national referendums. Threatening to launch an armed revolt is probably not going to be very impactful on members of Congress, but a state assemblyman knows these people much more intimately and is much closer to the danger they present... indeed, may even be a sympathizer.
Also, it's "TPP", unless the Pacific Ocean got renamed to the "Tacific Ocean" when I wasn't looking. I think some folks are confusing TPP with TTIP, which is between the US and the EU.
edited 8th Oct '15 6:30:48 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Re: gun control, there was a harsh political cartoon floating around Facebook a week ago, that had a mom desperately hugging her child, and the dad desperately hugging his gun, in the aftermath of the Oregon shooting.
That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
It does every time. Weapons manufacturers and retailers love mass shootings.
edited 8th Oct '15 7:01:07 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Mass shootings are a conspiracy by the arms sector to ensure sales
...Yeah, that's solidly in Dude, Not Funny! territory. >.<
"Yup. That tasted purple."Heh, I'm still snickering at some of my "gubbmint's'a comin!" relatives who went out after sandy hook and bought something like 10k rounds of assorted calibers. Most of it is already corroding in their basement or in a bunch of pits they buried some of it in.
edited 8th Oct '15 8:11:48 AM by carbon-mantis
edited 8th Oct '15 9:13:01 AM by NativeJovian
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.I am not American, and know next to nothing about guns, but I really have a hard time thinking that any number of guns among the population would have an effect in an hypothetical rebellion.
The US Army is, as far as I know, the most powerful in the world, and the only trouble it has when fighting a war is that the Marines are deployed in foreign countries they do not know as well as, well, the people that lived here their entire life. Would a civil war ever occur in America, the insurgents wouldn't even have home-court advantage. Or tanks. Or drones.
Plus, if I may add, the US of A are not the best place in the world for guerilla warfare. It's easier to resist and ambush when the streets are smaller (that's actually why there are "Grands Boulevards" - large streets - in Paris: it's much harder to create barricades when the streets are wide).
edited 8th Oct '15 9:30:40 AM by Julep
Breaking news: Kevin McCarthy has dropped his bid to become Speaker of the House of Representatives. The GOP has delayed their internal party vote which will precede the October 29th floor vote by the whole house.
Now the only candidates are Chaffetz, recently known for crying over how much he wanted to cut planned parenthood funding so that the money could be spent elsewhere, and Daniel Webster, the choice of the House Freedom Caucus.
Wow. McCarthy is dropping from the Speaker's race... I did not see that coming. Rachel Maddow is going to have a field day tonight. She might well take credit for it.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"![]()
Uhm, not really. It takes a very long time for bullets to spoil. You can still find ammo dating from WWII in working condition.
Most of the ammo being stashed usually gets spent long before they can spoil, it would need some very extreme conditions for ammo to spoil early, like open storage in places like Florida during the summer.
The failure rate of properly conserved ammo is very low.
Inter arma enim silent leges

Worth noting that my local very much pro-free trade and pro-TTP newspaper in its economy section wrote about two economy studies that said that the positive job market effects of NAFTA and TTP are minimal if at all. And that was the focus point of the article, with no disclaimers or qualifiers.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman