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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#102776: Oct 7th 2015 at 11:55:54 AM

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Almost never, but they do sometimes stab their teachers after calling them the n-word.

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#102777: Oct 7th 2015 at 12:21:25 PM

You might occasionally get something gang related, but even that's normally going to be a stabbing.

Remember when people are allowed guns they're going to be long guns and have to be properly secured, with the police having to inspect and prove the storage place.

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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#102778: Oct 7th 2015 at 12:36:29 PM

British kids only get into firearm fights when they are trying to nick candies off the corner store

Also hooligans

But yeah. What the hell with this kid's parents. Irresponsible doesn't even begin to describe it.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#102779: Oct 7th 2015 at 12:43:28 PM

We get stabbings even if the people in question have guns on them. Otherwise gun violence only involves biker gangs and the occasional drunk guy in Lapland.

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#102780: Oct 7th 2015 at 12:50:29 PM

I'm pretty sure angry British children don't have access to handguns

That's the point. To quote Luminosity,

"This problem is unsolvable!" says the only country in the world that has this problem.

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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#102781: Oct 7th 2015 at 1:47:41 PM

[up]Uhm, the US is the one developed country with this kind of problem, things like this happens here a few times a year.

Along when it happens in other countries it hardly makes to international news.

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#102782: Oct 7th 2015 at 3:54:22 PM

Governor Jerry Brown signed a pared-down climate change measure that will increase renewable energy generation and make buildings more energy efficient.

The bill will require California to generate 50% of its electricity from renewable sources such as solar and wind by 2030, up from the current target of 33% by 2020.

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#102783: Oct 7th 2015 at 4:04:07 PM

Freedin Caucus backs Webster for House Speaker in a blow to McCarthy

In a move that threatens to upend the Republican race to succeed outgoing House Speaker John A. Boehner, a group of hard-line conservatives said Wednesday it will throw its support behind a little known Florida member to become the next speaker.

The House Freedom Caucus announced its support for Rep. Daniel Webster (R-Fla.) after emerging from an afternoon meeting in the Capitol complex.

The endorsement deeply complicates Majority Leader Kevin O. Mc Carthy’s bid to succeed Boehner as speaker. But in an opening for the California Republican, caucus members said Wednesday that the endorsement is binding on members only for Thursday’s internal party vote and would not necessarily apply to the Oct. 29 floor vote.

But the endorsement Wednesday gives the caucus tremendous leverage to force Mc Carthy or any other candidate into adopting rules changes and policy positions favored by conservatives ahead of the decisive floor vote…

edited 7th Oct '15 4:04:21 PM by PotatoesRock

alioth Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#102784: Oct 7th 2015 at 4:53:21 PM

@jefferson county shooting: it shouldn't have happened, but with just what i've heard about the case, what happened might not actually have been -that- unreasonable on the parent's part.

It's approaching Deer Season, most hunters try to go to the gun range a few times before they actually go out to hunt, and it's not that unreasonable for them to have it under slightly less lock and key for that time period. Additionally, a good deal of hunting families take their young kids with them from a young age to teach them to hunt and to the ranges, so there's a chance he would've learned how to get out the guns from that. (He's 11, I've seen kids as young as 7 or 8 with their parents hunting or at the gun range) It's really shitty parenting that their kid didn't know not go get the gun and shoot people, but a hunting shotgun being easy to get out around hunting season makes sense.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#102785: Oct 7th 2015 at 5:04:44 PM

Or the kid is already really messed to begin with.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#102786: Oct 7th 2015 at 5:11:11 PM

"...but a hunting shotgun being easy to get out around hunting season makes sense."

No, it doesn't. I can buy that someone is stupid enough to leave it in a state like that but a kid having access to a gun is stupid full stop. I don't care how responsible a parent thinks their kids are. When they're not using the gun it should be under lock and key. Anybody that does otherwise should be charged with negligent endangerment of a child.

edited 7th Oct '15 5:11:34 PM by Kostya

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#102787: Oct 7th 2015 at 5:14:40 PM

Gun and ammunition that was apparently very easy to access, kid pretty quick to resolve his problems with murder.

This doesn't say very good things about the gun owner in question.

Bets that he was one of those people who had dreams of shooting burglars?

Oh really when?
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#102788: Oct 7th 2015 at 5:54:32 PM

[up] I think everyone has had fantasies about harming people. It's a natural part of anger, even if our anger is focused on people we simply imagine. Imagining people who are committing crimes and that we don't know makes it easier to stomach the fantasy.

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alioth Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#102789: Oct 7th 2015 at 5:55:23 PM

[up][up][up]I don't agree with you.
[up][up]Again, I haven't really looked that deep into the case. But it sounds more like the parents fucked up raising the child to me then it does that they made some huge mistake in how they were handling their guns.

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edited 7th Oct '15 5:55:47 PM by alioth

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#102790: Oct 7th 2015 at 5:57:02 PM

Could you elaborate a bit more? Do you think children should have access to guns or are you objecting to something else?

alioth Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#102791: Oct 7th 2015 at 6:04:28 PM

[up]I don't think kids having access to guns is ridiculous, no. It'd vary case by case, and here he quite clearly shouldn't, but there are plenty of kids (generally from hunting families) that have hunted since age six and know full well what to do and not do with a gun. A gun being accessible by an eleven year old isn't ridiculous at all, he could've been hunting for five or six years by then, and ammunition being able to grab from around the house during hunting season doesn't strike me as odd at all.
So I don't think that it makes sense for them to throw parents who leave guns accessible to children in hunting families to be all that ridiculous, no. But, all of what I just said is under the assumption this is a big hunting family, and I could be entirely wrong on that. I don't know all that much about Jefferson County or the case, other then that Jefferson is supposedly rural.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#102792: Oct 7th 2015 at 6:07:57 PM

If hunting families do that then they're idiots. Look, just because something is seen as socially acceptable and widely practiced doesn't mean it's acceptable behavior. Children should never under any circumstances have access to a gun without adult supervision.

alioth Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#102793: Oct 7th 2015 at 6:11:58 PM

[up]Okay, cool. You can keep thinking that, I'm going to keep disagreeing.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#102794: Oct 7th 2015 at 6:23:52 PM

Well considering ease of access to guns literally just led to the death of this girl. And numerous others if you wanna look that far back, I'd say that yeah guns need to be under heavy lock and key.

In what strange and fucked up world is a child having easy access to a gun a good thing?

edited 7th Oct '15 6:24:20 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#102795: Oct 7th 2015 at 6:27:03 PM

I find it interesting that there are minimum age laws or requirements for driving, drinking, sex, roller coasters, movies, videogames, staying alone at home etc. but not guns.

We can't trust you not to kill yourself home alone at age X, but you can shoot a gun.

edited 7th Oct '15 6:28:30 PM by nightwyrm_zero

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#102796: Oct 7th 2015 at 6:30:47 PM

Except there are minimum age laws for guns. They restrict the purchase.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#102797: Oct 7th 2015 at 6:31:30 PM

That is not the same thing as restricting the usage or access of them. You have to be 16 to use a car but there's no kind of requirement for a gun.

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#102798: Oct 7th 2015 at 6:34:45 PM

And I steered my parents car sitting on their lap when I was six.

The police did not arrest them.

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#102799: Oct 7th 2015 at 6:39:12 PM

So? Your parents shouldn't have done that. Thankfully there wasn't an accident but that doesn't mean it's okay.

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#102800: Oct 7th 2015 at 6:49:08 PM

[up][up]Pretty sure that's gonna be violating some seatbelt laws at least...


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