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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
"Presumption of guilt"? I'm sorry, but the U.S. is the party that dropped the bomb, unless there is some doubt on that point that hasn't been discussed in any of the articles about it.
The question is not, "Did we do it," the question is, "Should we have known not to do it?" More specifically, "Did we exercise proper diligence in determining whether our bomb target was a legitimate hostile entity?"
edited 4th Oct '15 5:15:35 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Who's presuming guilt? There is an investigation to determine if a war crime occurred. That is entirely proper after an incident like this.
edited 4th Oct '15 5:16:09 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"![]()
The call for the investigation. The organization is calling for an "independent investigation with the presumption that a war crime was committed." Not that the US dropped a bomb on a hospital, but that a war crime was committed. It doesn't matter anyway, everyone will do their own investigations, and they all will reach their own predetermined conclusions. Our guys will conclude that it was ether a "tragic accident" or that their were Taliban in their and they deserved to get bombed. At most we'll make somebody a scapegoat in public. The UN or whatever other NGO conducts an investigation will conclude this was the worse war crime in human history and that we are worse than the Taliban.
When is bombing a hospital ever well timed?
edited 4th Oct '15 5:19:53 PM by JackOLantern1337
I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.The civilian organisation that was the victim of the strike are presuming guilt, I can't really blame them for that, they did kind just get bombed by the US.
It's total bullshit hyperbole statements like this that make it hard for us to ever take you seriously Jack.
edited 4th Oct '15 5:23:43 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Can't say I blame them, we would be parading this shit as well in your media's place, hell we did with that airline shoot down, though I will point out that we have all but admitted responsibility, as opposed to trying to formulate random conspiracy theories to explain away the incident.
Crisis averted
. Four California students were arrested for planning a mass shooting at their school.
High school officials reported to authorities on Wednesday that three students were planning to carry out an attack. During their investigation, detectives learned that a fourth student was involved in the plot, the sheriff's office said.
Cross-posted from the Military thread:
Bellingcat's open source investigation into the Kunduz MSF hospital bombing suggests that it wasn't a bomber but an AC-130 responsible
. Apparently the Afghan military alleged that the hospital compound was a Taliban base. Bad intel leading to the Belgrade Chinese Embassy attack, Take Two?
It's times like these when the irrational part of my mind wants us to wash our hands of the Afghans and let them fight their own damn wars, since they are clearly too incompetent to deserve our help.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"The rational part says that success in the Afghan conflict is in our national interest as a means of curbing the spread of terrorism, which is a threat to global stability, and that this incident, while making headlines, is relatively minor in the grand scheme of things.
edited 5th Oct '15 8:46:59 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

Well the MSF is calling for an independent inquiry with the presumption that a war crime was committed
Presumably they do not grasp that independent inquiry and the presumption of guilt on one party are oxymoronic.
I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.