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#102627: Oct 3rd 2015 at 11:44:28 PM

[up] I honestly don't know why we haven't done this, Iowa and New Hampshire get millions in spending from candidates each year and frankly it should spread around. Only thing I don't like is the thought of it happening in a state where I live, because as much as I pay attention to politics I'm sure I will quickly get fed up with being right in the middle of primaries.

Trump doubles down on ethnic cleansing and hate, claiming that all of the Syrian refugees are an army and will launch an ISIS coup once they're brought to the US.

Donald Trump said Saturday that bringing Syrian refugees to the U.S. could result in "one of the great military coups of all time." "This could be one of the great military coups of all time if they send them to our country — young, strong people and they turn out to be ISIS," he told Fox News' Eric Bolling. "Now, probably that won't happen, but some of them definitely in my opinion will be ISIS."

Trump said later Saturday that bringing in more refugees could have long-term effects. "This could be the ultimate Trojan horse. This one could be written about for a long time," he said at a campaign event in Franklin, Tennessee. "They probably think, 'This is going to be easy. We will send all these ISIS people.' So a big percentage could be them."

The Republican front-runner said President Barack Obama wants to take up to 200,000 Syrian refugees. "Obama wants to — listen to this — he wants to take in 200,000," he added. "You know, 200,000. That's like an army. Now I'm looking the other day. It's all men. Like, where are the women? They're very strong men. Why aren't they back there fighting for their country?" It was unclear where Trump got the 200,000 figure, and a message left with the Trump campaign Saturday afternoon was not immediately returned.

Trump also said the U.S. is "totally unprepared" to handle the possible challenges. He also reiterated his pledge to send the refugees back to Syria if elected president. "If they come in, and if I win, they're going back. They're going back," Trump said to applause. He called for the creation of a "safe zone" in Syria where the refugees could settle. "We have to help them in that sense, but we don't have to help them by taking them into our country," Trump said.

Last month, Obama ordered his administration to "scale up" the number of Syrian refugees admitted to the United States, directing his team to prepare for at least 10,000 for this fiscal year, which began on Thursday. The 10,000 Syrian refugees would be allocated out of a U.S. quota of 75,000 refugee admissions from around the world. A Senate aide last month said Secretary of State John Kerry told senators that the administration would "seek an additional increase beyond" the worldwide total, potentially as high as 100,000. In all, about 1,500 Syrian refugees have been admitted to the United States since the start of the Syrian conflict in 2011, the vast majority of them in the fiscal year that just ended.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#102628: Oct 4th 2015 at 2:26:06 AM

I've heard that spreading it around among the states would make the process take even longer. Any truth to that?

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#102629: Oct 4th 2015 at 2:28:18 AM

Trump doubles down on ethnic cleansing and hate, claiming that all of the Syrian refugees are an army and will launch an ISIS coup once they're brought to the US.

Take a shot.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#102630: Oct 4th 2015 at 2:32:48 AM

[up]Better invest in activated charcoal first.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#102631: Oct 4th 2015 at 2:34:05 AM

Considering how many guns are in the US I would really love to see, what 20k? try.

I mean seriously how can anyone actually take him seriously?...

Edit: didn't he support taking refugees a while back?

edited 4th Oct '15 2:35:29 AM by Memers

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#102632: Oct 4th 2015 at 2:35:07 AM

Surprised the NRA isn't using that as a batman gambit and being all for taking anyone in, including the crazies...

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#102633: Oct 4th 2015 at 2:39:59 AM

It's really the only positive thing for having so many guns around. On the flip side we are more in danger from internal threats than external.

Iirc there was some Russian report during the start of the Cold War that said an invasion not feasible due to that hence why they doubled down on nukes. My facts might be off though on the origin of that though.

[down] Well yeah.

edited 4th Oct '15 5:27:42 AM by Memers

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A procrastination in of itself
#102634: Oct 4th 2015 at 2:45:16 AM

Invasion isn't feasible because the US is massive and on the other side of an ocean, sure the guns make it worse, but simple geography is enough reason to resort to nukes.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#102635: Oct 4th 2015 at 5:47:19 AM

Given the Russian methods of combating insurgency, urban or otherwise, all the hunting rifles and AR-15s in the world wouldn't make a difference in case of some weird hypothetical invasion.

Oh really when?
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The Mod with the Migraine
#102636: Oct 4th 2015 at 5:58:45 AM

I've heard that spreading it around among the states would make the process take even longer. Any truth to that?
I don't think it would, but I'm not a political science major. Problem would be how the hell you organize something like that and make all the states agree with it.

Re: refugees, I remember seeing something a few months back about Detroit wanting to take in a thousand or two, or they already had? Either way, even if we did bring in two hundred thousand, they won't be a very effective army if they're spread around in communities of 1k-3k.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#102637: Oct 4th 2015 at 9:07:57 AM

I'm from Minnesota. For decades now, my state has been home to tens of thousands of refugees from Somalia, possibly the most war torn country in the world. We're doing just fine.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#102638: Oct 4th 2015 at 9:21:41 AM

From what I've read, invading the US has similar logistical problems to invading Russia or China. The only way a nation could invade the US is with nuclear weapons or by borrowing technology from aliens, demons, or demon aliens.

edited 4th Oct '15 9:22:11 AM by Protagonist506

Leviticus 19:34
Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#102639: Oct 4th 2015 at 9:34:03 AM

[up]Or if Global Warming causes the oceans to evaporate, allowing for a land based assault.

This is of course not how Global Warming works, but it's a good argument to convince conservatives to save the environment.

edited 4th Oct '15 9:34:15 AM by Kayeka

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#102640: Oct 4th 2015 at 9:42:33 AM

[up]Man induced global warming is a US plot to deny the Soviets the Russian Winter. evil grin

Inter arma enim silent leges
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#102641: Oct 4th 2015 at 10:05:47 AM

What are demon aliens? Are they the infernal creatures that live in the mantle of some other planet?

The oceans drying up and people fighting on the seabed would make for a good sci fi novel though...

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#102642: Oct 4th 2015 at 10:24:00 AM

[up]

If the universe turns out to be a sci-fantasy ala Warhammer 40k, then we have demon aliens. So something like the hell beast.

Leviticus 19:34
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#102643: Oct 4th 2015 at 10:33:25 AM

"I'm from Minnesota. For decades now, my state has been home to tens of thousands of refugees from Somalia, possibly the most war torn country in the world. We're doing just fine."

On the other hand, Minnesota has the most IS defectors of any state in the U.S.

Mopman43 Since: Nov, 2013
#102644: Oct 4th 2015 at 10:49:47 AM

Is that saying much though? How many actual people have defected to ISIS from the U.S.?

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#102645: Oct 4th 2015 at 11:12:39 AM

Pretty sure the only people who have the logistical capability to launch and support a full scale invasion of a serious power across either ocean is the US.

Cause we're ballers.

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
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Shameful Display
#102647: Oct 4th 2015 at 4:24:32 PM

[up] The UN has always had a flare for histrionics when it comes to the US. Unless I'm gravely mistaken, accidentally striking a target is not a war crime.

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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#102648: Oct 4th 2015 at 4:27:19 PM

Attacking a clearly designated hospital isn't a war crime now?

"Yup. That tasted purple."
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#102649: Oct 4th 2015 at 4:44:02 PM

Well it isn't like there is a map with a special spot or a hint mark denoting "HOSPITAL" for the pilots.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#102650: Oct 4th 2015 at 4:49:46 PM

I don't see how it being said that it could amount to a war crime is particularly dramatical. Any time a civilian target is hit it could be a war crime, but there's a could in there for good reason, in the end it comes down to if the US probably carried out its duty of care when it comes to trying to avoid these kind of cock ups happening.

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