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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#102401: Oct 1st 2015 at 6:52:36 PM

I'm not sure what quarrel an IRA guy would have in Oregon, though.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#102403: Oct 1st 2015 at 6:56:23 PM

Irish Republican Army, look up the Troubles in Northern Ireland back in the 1980s.

Oh really when?
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#102404: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:00:37 PM

Strange that he'd shoot up a school in America.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#102405: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:02:57 PM

He could just be a fan of white terrorists, the IRA are going to be one of the most well know white terrorist groups, especially when you consider that the US used to have a big thing for the IRA, with a lot of Americans funding them and the US government refusing to let the UK put said people on trial.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#102406: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:06:19 PM

Lots of Irish Americans, aye. What was left of that love affair ended pretty sharply after 9/11 (similar to our romance for the Chechens' anti-Russia struggle).

AngelicBraeburn from Eccentric California Since: Jan, 2015
#102407: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:07:13 PM

Apparently the shooter was mix-raced and into Nazism. I'm still wrapping my head around that.

Its also interesting to note that he claimed he "doesn't like organized religion" and one student said the shooter asked people to state their religion before opening fire.

edited 1st Oct '15 7:25:42 PM by AngelicBraeburn

The artist formally known as Deviant Braeburn
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#102408: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:19:06 PM

Okay, is it bad that the first thing that popped to mind when I saw that pic was...

"....Is that Trevor Noah?"

Because damn....

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#102409: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:22:47 PM

A mixed race, neo-Nazi, IRA fanboy? That's certainly something...

And Obama was pretty livid at his press conference today. But after Sandy Hook nothing will cause the NRA to back down.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#102410: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:25:12 PM

God I wish there was some sort of real serious legal dirt on the NRA somewhere.

Those assholes are killing us.

Oh really when?
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#102411: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:26:08 PM

[up][up][up][up] Not that strange, considering even Poland has genuine Neonazis running around. :/

edited 1st Oct '15 7:26:19 PM by DrunkenNordmann

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#102412: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:34:27 PM

That first link is to the Daily Express, which is not known for reliable reporting (the owner literally doesn't know the meaning of the word ethics, and the paper is so racist that it's own staff have complained to the regulatory body so that someone will stop them being made to write such racist crap) we got a source from an actual trustworthy organisation?

edited 1st Oct '15 7:39:10 PM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#102413: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:46:51 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/02/us-usa-shooting-oregon-idUSKCN0RV5EP20151002

Nothing about those claims on Reuters.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Mopman43 Since: Nov, 2013
#102414: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:46:59 PM

Definitely want to take it with a grain of salt, given they say he is dead, when reports thus far, to my understanding, say he was taken into custody.

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#102415: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:48:18 PM

I've heard from a few different sources that he's dead.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#102416: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:49:21 PM

First thing I heard that he was taken into custody. I also heard they were unsure if he was injured or not.

It's possible he died from his wounds.

We'll probably know more tomorrow.

Oh really when?
AngelicBraeburn from Eccentric California Since: Jan, 2015
#102417: Oct 1st 2015 at 7:52:46 PM

[up] x 4

Here is an alternative source.

edited 1st Oct '15 7:54:04 PM by AngelicBraeburn

The artist formally known as Deviant Braeburn
LogoP Party Crasher from the Land of Deep Blue Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Party Crasher
#102418: Oct 1st 2015 at 8:54:45 PM

Inb4 someone says that this incident would have been averted if all the college students were armed.

It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
Artificius from about a foot and a half away from a monitor. Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
#102419: Oct 1st 2015 at 9:12:15 PM

[up]That was running through my mind earlier. "Well, at least it would be better than arming primary school teachers to prevent those shootings."

edited 1st Oct '15 9:20:06 PM by Artificius

"I have no fear, for fear is the little death that kills me over and over. Without fear, I die but once."
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#102420: Oct 1st 2015 at 9:18:07 PM

Probably a more reasonable statement would be requesting that Colleges have firearm-equipped security teams or police nearby.

Leviticus 19:34
LogoP Party Crasher from the Land of Deep Blue Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Party Crasher
#102421: Oct 1st 2015 at 9:24:20 PM

The fact that schools & colleges being required to employ "firearm-equipped security teams" may soon be viewed as a necessity is pretty depressing.

edited 1st Oct '15 9:24:47 PM by LogoP

It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#102423: Oct 1st 2015 at 11:37:17 PM

They say England, but do they mean England or UK? Could he be Northern Irish?

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
AngelicBraeburn from Eccentric California Since: Jan, 2015
#102424: Oct 1st 2015 at 11:52:28 PM

How long until someone on FOX links this guy shooting Christians to Kim Davis?

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Wednesday issued the first federal rules aimed at reducing toxic water discharges into lakes, rivers and streams from coal-fired power plants and coal ash dumps.

The regulation will eliminate most releases of ash-contaminated wastewater, require treatment of sludge and cut discharges of toxic heavy metals, including mercury, arsenic, lead and selenium by 1.4 billion pounds a year, according to the EPA, producing health benefits totaling $463 million annually.

The artist formally known as Deviant Braeburn
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#102425: Oct 2nd 2015 at 2:37:22 AM

Page bottomer, so I know no one is going to read these. tongue

Ben Carson, like Cracked, believes Hitler can happen in America, but refuses to state on camera which of his running mates it is.

Ben Carson suggested on Wednesday that a Nazi-like force could come to power in the United States. At a campaign event in New Hampshire, Carson noted that many people believe a situation like what took place in Germany in the 1930's and 1940's could never happen in America. "I beg to differ," Carson said. "If you go back and look at the history of the world, tyranny and despotism and how it starts, it has a lot to do with control of thought and control of speech."

At a press conference after the speech, reporters asked Carson who he thinks is like Adolf Hitler in the U.S. "I'm not going to go into that that. I think that example is pretty clear," he responded, without elaborating. When another reporter asked if he was comparing President Barack Obama to Hitler, Carson said, "No. I am saying in a situation where people do not express themselves, bad things can happen."

Earlier, Carson had said, "If people don't speak up for what they believe, then other people will change things without them having a voice. Hitler changed things there and nobody protested. Nobody provided any opposition to him." Meanwhile, as he was leaving the event, a reporter asked Carson how he would respond to Hurricane Joaquin if he were in the White House. "I don't know," he replied.

And Biden comes out swinging against Bernie, saying I am not a Socialist like it was still 1953.
Vice President Joe Biden drew a distinction with his potential Democratic presidential rival Bernie Sanders on Thursday, portraying himself as more of a "realist" than Sanders, who he called a "populist." "I'm no Bernie Sanders," Biden told the crowd at the Concordia Summit in New York. "He's a great guy by the way. He really is. I'm not a populist. But I'm a realist."

There has been widespread speculation about whether Biden will jump into the presidential race this fall. People close to Biden, who is still reeling from the death of his son this spring, say he has not yet made up his mind whether to enter the contest. On Thursday, CNN reported that Biden has extended his window for deciding whether to jump into the campaign. Sanders is an openly declared Democratic socialist, and that populism has fueled huge crowds during the summer from progressives who think the Democratic Party — and Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton — is too close to Wall Street. Biden drew a contrast with Sanders' wing of the party on Thursday.

"If you take a look at everyone from the IMF to Standard and Poor's, the greatest concern they have about economic growth is the concentration of wealth," Biden said. But, he said, "if you make widgets and there's not enough people to buy your widgets, you're not going to do well."

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw

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