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#101976: Sep 26th 2015 at 1:58:26 PM

And no the world won't swallow it, once again Jack you're being paranoid and overblown about China's influence and power compared to that of the US.

And Garcon, you're at the other end of the spectrum smile.

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#101977: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:02:54 PM

Cue shitstorm in

3... 2... 1...

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#101978: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:03:39 PM

[up][up][up] Nah the debt issue is overblown. What I bet you weren't expecting me to say that.evil grin The US is indeed as rich as China, but we are not as willing to punish foreign companies and country's for small slights like China is. Plus, though the Chinese economy is shrinking, it is still growing faster than ours.

edited 26th Sep '15 2:04:35 PM by JackOLantern1337

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#101979: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:03:59 PM

Because again, Xi is probably trying to move into an era of more stable rule of law, and a growth of Chinese soft power. You win more allies with smiles, memes and culture than you do with guns.

Again, we're moving into an increasingly warless era. The spike of violence with Russia and the Middle East are the exception, not the norm.

And China wants to avoid sanctions due to a deflating economy and the last thing the Communist Party needs is MORE economic instability from sanctions.

edited 26th Sep '15 2:05:03 PM by PotatoesRock

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#101980: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:04:14 PM

The debt issue is much more than overblown, it's outright manufactured.

Oh really when?
Skycobra51 A suitable case for treatment from The US of A Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Only knew I loved her when I let her go
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#101981: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:05:29 PM

[up][up]Or if you want to be cynical, the world's a powder keg waiting to explode.

But what you're describing, kinda, sounds like the years leading up to World War One.

edited 26th Sep '15 2:11:22 PM by Skycobra51

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#101982: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:06:15 PM

[up][up] You should have seen the glee of the foreign students at my summer camp who talked about how since we owed China so much money they could basically take a state or two as collateral. One student actually said they could "take half the country."[lol]

edited 26th Sep '15 2:06:26 PM by JackOLantern1337

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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#101983: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:09:43 PM

There was a commercial about the debt at some point in an election year. It was a bunch of Chinese students being lectured by their Chinese professor about the US debt crisis, and at the end of it he goes "But you all already know that...we own them now." And then, no shit, the entire room starts to laugh evilly.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#101984: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:10:26 PM

[up] I heard about that.

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#101986: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:19:53 PM

China wants to build railroads and factories in Brazil cheaply but on the terms the construction is done with Chinese labour, while the country itself is suffering from high unemployment.

So in other words fuck the Chinese soft power, it is full of strings attached that only bring benefit to China, they are pulling the same shit in Africa.

edited 26th Sep '15 3:10:54 PM by AngelusNox

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#101987: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:20:07 PM

[up][up]I've seen it before, but I love how its "banned". Probably not to offend the chinese.

[up] When it comes to Africa, I wonder if they realise the age of Imperialism has long since passed them by.

edited 26th Sep '15 2:26:49 PM by Skycobra51

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#101988: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:20:27 PM

The US is indeed as rich as China, but we are not as willing to punish foreign companies and country's for small slights like China is. Plus, though the Chinese economy is shrinking, it is still growing faster than ours.

You don't do that because you don't need to, it matters not to the giant of the US if the ant of another country does something to it, though that often doesn't stop you, the US can be incredibly aggressive when it comes to copywrite law and ensuring that other countries can't get access to drugs and medicine without giving up half their economy. That's before we touch on things like what big Tobacco and the banks will do to countries that cross them, Wall Street seized a military ship from Argentina remember.

And the Chinese economy is only growing faster the the US' because of how far behind it is, it's the same way that if I got two people to join a Church I just established I'd have a faster growth rate than the Catholic Church. It's easier to turn a 2 into a 4 then a 5,000 into a 10,000.

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#101989: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:31:19 PM

China wants to build railroads and factories in Brazil cheaply but on the terms the construction is done with Chinese labour, while the country itself is suffering from high unemployment.

While here in Britain, the Government is asking the Chinese for advice on Nuclear Power Stations and High Speed Railways...

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#101990: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:32:10 PM

United States aims to modernize UN peace keeper force.

President Obama wants Europeans to increase their peace keeping contributions. The UN meeting he is heading imposes a condition that participating member states who want to speak up have to announce their new contributions beforehand.

Some Europeans have expressed annoyance that the US hasn't offered up it's own new contributions to the peace keepers. The president has indicated that he will bolster the US contribution, however, and put the United States' "unrivalled set of airlift capabilities." on the table for rapid response military and humanitarian use.

It's a high-profile attempt to shove the "blue helmets" — now engaged in 16 missions at a cost of $8.2 billion — into modern times.

The new peacekeeping vision calls for special forces, unarmed drones and intelligence work that brings the U.N. closer than ever to the sensitive issue of electronic surveillance.

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#101991: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:33:10 PM

[up] Maybe a UN Space Programme?

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#101992: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:43:26 PM

Poland could finally into space?

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#101993: Sep 26th 2015 at 2:58:55 PM

[up] Actually it already has[1], Poland also contributes 30 million Euroes to the European Space Agency.

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#101995: Sep 26th 2015 at 3:12:57 PM

As to China, I worry Jack and Cobra, you're falling into a fallacy of an Eagleland version of China.

Also would be good for the UN to probably get modernized, peacekeeping wise. ... Which suddenly reminds me of Eagle, the political manga.

edited 26th Sep '15 3:13:53 PM by PotatoesRock

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#101996: Sep 26th 2015 at 3:23:34 PM

[up] Modernization will only work if their rules of engagement are changed to allow them to fucking shoot at things. Otherwise it will be pointless.

Edit: Oh believe me, just because I think China is big and powerful doesn't mean I think the US is great and virtuous. If anything one of the worst precedents for how China could act is my country's actions in the rest of the America's.

edited 26th Sep '15 3:25:27 PM by JackOLantern1337

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#101997: Sep 26th 2015 at 3:25:24 PM

They're peacekeepers. If they have to start shooting then something has gone wrong somewhere along the line.

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#101998: Sep 26th 2015 at 3:26:39 PM

[up] So they are supposed to allow people to get beaten to death while they literally stand their and do nothing. Great job keeping the peace guys.

Edit: Anyways, in regards to China. I hope competition with it will finally cause us to finally invest more money in Nasa.

edited 26th Sep '15 3:27:24 PM by JackOLantern1337

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#101999: Sep 26th 2015 at 3:27:40 PM

That's why (in some cases) we should be switching over to peacemaking.

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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#102000: Sep 26th 2015 at 3:28:32 PM

I fail to see how them going around shooting anything that moves and blowing up anything that doesn't would be better at stabilising the situation.

Despite what a lot of US police departments think lethal force is always the last resort when trying to defuse a situation.

edited 26th Sep '15 3:30:21 PM by Deadbeatloser22

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