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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#101426: Sep 20th 2015 at 1:09:01 PM

The Oath Keepers aren't a few dozen nuts.

They're combat hardened domestic terrorists with cells in every state and substantial popular support.

They're professionals and are not to be written off.

And what are your domestic security agencies doing? Twiddling their thumbs?

edited 20th Sep '15 1:09:31 PM by DrunkenNordmann

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#101427: Sep 20th 2015 at 1:09:47 PM

Plus that bit of the Constitution has been ignored in several states anyway, with Atheists being banned from holding office.

[up] Pretty much, keep in mind that there's a reasonable membership overlap between the oath Keepers and law enforcement/the military.

edited 20th Sep '15 1:15:07 PM by Silasw

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#101428: Sep 20th 2015 at 1:10:33 PM

[up][up]Well they're largely if not exclusively white men so they never paid them much mind in the first place.

Now that the political situation here is collapsing they're becoming quite and active threat.

They've been here too long and now there's no way to solve this problem without serious repercussions.

edited 20th Sep '15 1:10:43 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#101429: Sep 20th 2015 at 1:11:16 PM

@ Garcon: Are the Oath Keepers Stealthy, or will the Russians see them?

edited 20th Sep '15 1:11:49 PM by Greenmantle

Keep Rolling On
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#101430: Sep 20th 2015 at 1:12:46 PM

Well their pickup trucks and camouflaged baseball caps allow them to blend in perfectly with the general population.

We have just have to hope they haven't developed Stealth Technical capabilities.

Oh really when?
Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#101431: Sep 20th 2015 at 1:12:53 PM

[up]X5 Well seeing as how a lot of FBI and Local Law enforcement is drawn from the same military units the Oathkeepers love to say their membership comes from... probably going to the bar with their old friends and laughing while saying "yeah right Steve you won't do it no balls." To which the Oathkeeper responds "Fuck you Carl! Also you cheat at Bowling!"

Hence why I doubt they are a serious threat. Because in the end Steve doesn't want to shoot Carl. He just wants to pretend he's George Washington inside his head.

edited 20th Sep '15 1:13:14 PM by Canid117

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#101432: Sep 20th 2015 at 1:15:04 PM

They still need a better name though, you'd think someone would bring it up at the weekly meeting.

edited 20th Sep '15 1:15:34 PM by Skycobra51

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Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#101433: Sep 20th 2015 at 1:16:22 PM

Are the Oath Keepers Stealthy, or will the Russians see them?

We've already got Orthodox Christian thugs being basically above the law, so they'd fit right in.

[down] Yes.

edited 20th Sep '15 1:23:12 PM by Luminosity

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#101434: Sep 20th 2015 at 1:20:51 PM

[up] Orthodox Christian as in Orthodox Christianity?

Keep Rolling On
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#101435: Sep 20th 2015 at 1:45:36 PM

Yeah, the Oath Keepers need to be dealt with. I just don't see a way to do so that doesn't involve hundreds or thousands of innocents, police officers and loyal service members going home in body bags.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#101436: Sep 20th 2015 at 2:18:46 PM

[up] Well the Whisky rebellion was crushed swiftly and without incident, and that was in the 1700's. Do they have any know links to Putin's Russia, as several far right groups in the US and Europe do, that would go a long way towards discrediting them.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#101437: Sep 20th 2015 at 3:13:36 PM

Republican candidate Lindsey Graham and Democratic candidate Martin O'Malley calls out Ben Carson and demands he apologize to American Muslims for his remarks.

Over Twitter Graham wrote:

@Real Ben Carson is not ready to be Commander-In-Chief. America is an idea, not owned by a particular religion

@Real Ben Carson needs to apologize to American Muslims. He is a good doctor, but clearly not prepared to lead a great nation.

O'Malley wrote:

American people are better than latest Trump/Carson/GOP anti-Muslim bigotry. Hate is not an American value. #diversityisourgreateststrength

It’s sad to see the party of Lincoln being led by candidates who choose bigotry against Muslim-Americans over “united we stand.”

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United Earth
#101438: Sep 20th 2015 at 4:56:39 PM

Behind the scenes with Bernie Sanders: Three days in Iowa that explain why Hillary’s fading and the Dems have a new front-runner

Vote Sanders, people.

I beg of you.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#101439: Sep 20th 2015 at 5:15:10 PM

[up] The link doesn't work.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#101440: Sep 20th 2015 at 5:17:20 PM

It's just the forums breaking long links again. Behold, the url.

www.salon.com/2015/09/20/behind_the_scenes_with_bernie_sanders_three_days

_in_iowa_that_explain_why_hillarys_fading_and_the_dems_have_a_new_front_runner/

Which I had to split into two lines because, again, these fucking forums.

edited 20th Sep '15 5:19:52 PM by rikalous

Skycobra51 A suitable case for treatment from The US of A Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Only knew I loved her when I let her go
A suitable case for treatment
#101441: Sep 20th 2015 at 5:34:49 PM

[up][up][up] That's a no brainer for me, he's the only canidate I actually like from either party.

Look upon my privilege ye mighty and despair.
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Lost in Space
#101442: Sep 20th 2015 at 6:45:22 PM

Sanders may achieve the unlikely task of winning my allegiance if he keeps this up. I thought Hillary would have learned from 2008 not to campaign via focus group. Apparently, I was wrong.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#101443: Sep 20th 2015 at 6:58:23 PM

Hilary lives in a bubble. It was almost inevitable she'd learn the wrong lesson from 2008.

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Lost in Space
#101444: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:00:29 PM

If Sanders goes so far as to recruit Paul Krugman as one of his economic advisers, I will Squee and give him ALL the votes.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#101445: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:02:51 PM

and give him ALL the votes.
That would be illegal, sir.

Skycobra51 A suitable case for treatment from The US of A Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Only knew I loved her when I let her go
A suitable case for treatment
#101446: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:14:26 PM

Only if you get caught and its legal if you live in Russiatongue

edited 20th Sep '15 7:19:20 PM by Skycobra51

Look upon my privilege ye mighty and despair.
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#101447: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:17:24 PM

[up]It's perfectly legal if you live in North Korea, though.

Leviticus 19:34
Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#101448: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:17:26 PM

Since when was it illegal in Russia?

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
Skycobra51 A suitable case for treatment from The US of A Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Only knew I loved her when I let her go
A suitable case for treatment
#101449: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:23:28 PM

[up]fixed it. Stupid mobile phone and frozen fingers don't mix.

Look upon my privilege ye mighty and despair.
Artificius from about a foot and a half away from a monitor. Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
#101450: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:28:47 PM

Decent article, but the comments section is the usual drip tray of democracy. It's good they broached how his appearance is not "presidential:" That very point was the end of my last conversation on the guy with my pa, and I'll be using the article to reopen the dialogue.

"I have no fear, for fear is the little death that kills me over and over. Without fear, I die but once."

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