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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#101326: Sep 20th 2015 at 3:49:18 AM

He can't be a true Christian; he isn't constantly openly denouncing homosexuals.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#101327: Sep 20th 2015 at 4:02:30 AM

"but the greatest vehicle for alleviating poverty and deprivation is the very institution of free market capitalism that [the Pope] now denounces."
This quote makes my brain make little wounded-animal noises.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#101328: Sep 20th 2015 at 4:26:12 AM

[up] Obama himself called capitalism the greatest force for lifting people out of poverty in human history, or something like that.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#101329: Sep 20th 2015 at 4:40:45 AM

How very socialist of him. Can I at least assume he didn't tack on that "free market" qualifier?

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#101330: Sep 20th 2015 at 5:37:56 AM

Denise C. Mc Allister, a senior contributor to the Federalist, a conservative online magazine that covers politics, religion and culture, said the Pope's "social justice schemes" are immoral and similar to Obama's "socialist ideology."

What's this, the cold war all over again?

Honestly, Republicans are so childish.

"Eeek! Socialism! Tag team of Satan and Stalin are looking to tax one of our nine emerald block boats! The horror!"

SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#101331: Sep 20th 2015 at 5:52:16 AM

Why is it so wrong for Francis to be acting like Jesus? Isn't that how all Christians are supposed to act?

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#101332: Sep 20th 2015 at 6:02:46 AM

To that I say - since when?

Never in any period of history there was a Christian civilization that acted like it. Such a thing never existed. Religion was always a tool of the power, a method of pacifying and convincing the masses that "what we're doing is not only okay, but awesome!".

Only now can this model be challenged by an unprecedented access of knowledge, a.k.a. anyone can actually pick up the Bible, read it, and see for themselves how un-Christian the "Christian world" has been for the last couple thousand years. And boy, is the "Christian world" unhappy with that notion.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#101333: Sep 20th 2015 at 6:43:27 AM

[up][up] No. Not for these people. Christians aren't meant to act like Christ, they're meant to act like the angry possessive smite happy God of the Old Testament. It wasn't until I went to my local Church of England church after having been to a Evangelical one that I realised what had been missing from the Evangelical one, Christ.

Did you never see the "Obama isn't a Middle eEastern socialist calling for a revolution and socialising with prostitutes and tax collectors while handing out free healthcare, that's Jesus." thing?

edited 20th Sep '15 6:43:50 AM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#101334: Sep 20th 2015 at 6:59:44 AM

[up] ...I'm just asking...

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#101335: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:04:42 AM

Maybe Jeb Bush'll set up an antipope if he gets elected.

edited 20th Sep '15 7:04:54 AM by DrunkenNordmann

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#101336: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:11:44 AM

This Pope reminds me a lot of many priest I've met in Latin America.

And he is supposed to be right wing because he was dead against liberation theology.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#101337: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:19:19 AM

[up] According to whom?

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#101338: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:40:58 AM

[up]X4 And I'm just answering... I don't know why you're taking my reply as anything but the sharing of information.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#101339: Sep 20th 2015 at 7:58:44 AM

Your post reads like a negative admonishment, akin to saying "no you silly child, this is how it really is."

Of course, tone in written form can be hard to discern even when it's your writing, so whatever.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#101340: Sep 20th 2015 at 8:13:17 AM

[up][up]I think the "No" was the issue. It made it seem a bit more hostile than you intended.

On the subject of Christians not acting like Christ. Many of them flat out ignore most of the stuff Jesus said. Part of it has to do with the growing focus on the Devil and the Book of Revelation. They don't see themselves as shepherds that are supposed to lead the world towards peace and love. They're soldiers in a battle against the ultimate evil. To them any deviation from their established notion of good is a plot by this evil to destroy society. Granted this is more of an American thing, especially among Protestants.

edited 20th Sep '15 8:13:49 AM by Kostya

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#101341: Sep 20th 2015 at 8:16:49 AM

Ahh that makes sense, I'll be more careful in the future.

It's not even a Protestant thing, remember that the American denominations with openly gay bishops are also Protestant, it's more specific then that, it's an Evangelical thing.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Skycobra51 A suitable case for treatment from The US of A Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Only knew I loved her when I let her go
A suitable case for treatment
#101342: Sep 20th 2015 at 8:21:31 AM

[up]Pretty much. Even Baptists can't stand Evangelicals, and that really says alot.

They're nuts plain and simple.

edited 20th Sep '15 8:24:29 AM by Skycobra51

Look upon my privilege ye mighty and despair.
Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#101343: Sep 20th 2015 at 8:28:04 AM

[up][up][up] It's simultaneously more and less dramatic than that. While seeing yourself as a soldier in a battle of hashtags and like buttons can be destructive and the person in question might even claim they're in this to swing a massive holy sword against things like "people doing things in beds", the real reason is a bit more simple.

They don't really care what Christianity is about. The New Testament might as well have been consisting of Austin 3:16 copy-pasted around 800 times, they'd behave the exact same way. Because they have no intention of following anything. It's the other way around.

They use religion to validate their personal biases and prejudices, nothing more. They see God as less of a "creator and master of all things" and more of a "my personal attack dog". That's why they're so excited and joyful when they scream "you're going to hell", as if God is going to do that on their behalf.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#101344: Sep 20th 2015 at 8:31:37 AM

Both types of people exist and they're both a major pain in the ass.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#101345: Sep 20th 2015 at 9:22:54 AM

[up][up]Save your ranting for the religion thread please, for the sake of those of us who avoid that particular thread for good reason.

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#101346: Sep 20th 2015 at 9:32:17 AM

So you know what I think? C-Span could use a talk show. Like a half hour long version of Brooks and Shields from the Newshour to fill the time when its just old people not doing anything.

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#101347: Sep 20th 2015 at 9:33:58 AM

I want like an Intern Thunderdome complete with betting facilities.

Oh really when?
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#101348: Sep 20th 2015 at 9:38:01 AM

[up][up]They kinda already do that, but only when something special is happening in Congress.

Wouldn't mind it being a normal thing though.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#101349: Sep 20th 2015 at 9:51:01 AM

American right-ism has deep roots in Anti-Catholicism, mind, even though Catholics have been an evenly split base lately (white social conservatives choosing Republicans, but devout Hispanics often still veering Democrat), anti-Catholicism was once a defining part of xenophobic movements in this country.

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#101350: Sep 20th 2015 at 9:55:03 AM

@ Canid: Something like the Daily Politics?

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