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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#101101: Sep 17th 2015 at 12:51:44 PM

Do you need a majority or a plurality of the votes to secure the Republican nomination?

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#101102: Sep 17th 2015 at 1:05:03 PM

Regarding Fiorina in the debate, she was well prepared, she had lines ready to go when asked questions, specific plans for what to do, etc. She seemed smart, crisp, and in control. She even took a bite out of Donald's ass and made him trip over himself to apologize while violating his sacred alpha male tough guy act.

Of course she was also wrong. As in like, horrifically, terribly wrong with her facts, figures, etc. But she sounded like she knew what she was talking about, and outside of 1 on 1 debates, that's all that matters. (It's frequently all that matters in 1 on 1s too, but that's a rant for another time.)

Ultimately I doubt the Republican primary voters will do more than give her a pat on the head and an "Atta girl", but who knows. The Republican party is so fractured right now and pulled in multiple directions, (some of which may be passing phases, some of which may not) that there's going to be some shake ups in the direction it goes, and those shake ups probably won't be resolved or limited to this election.

(Also I continue to think that Trump crashing and burning are inevitable, and events like this debate will later be seen as early cracks in the armor.)

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#101103: Sep 17th 2015 at 1:07:24 PM

[up][up][up] That doesn't seem like that big a risk in terms of the primary election. At worst, the lack of a concise opposition might end up snagging him the Republican nomination, but in the end it'd still be Trump against a sole Democratic candidate, who'd be the only viable choice for the sizable "Anything but Trump" demographic.

edited 17th Sep '15 1:07:38 PM by DrDougsh

Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#101104: Sep 17th 2015 at 1:11:38 PM

[up][up][up] You need a majority of votes to secure the nomination.

Failing a majority, the delegates to the party convention are then released from their candidate to vote for whoever they want.

Note that if Trump somehow gets a slim majority of the primary/caucus delegates, but angers the party establishment, the superdelegates (state party officials who get a vote in the convention) might still deny him the overall majority needed for nomination.

edited 17th Sep '15 1:29:02 PM by Tangent128

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#101105: Sep 17th 2015 at 1:53:56 PM

[up][up][up] I sort of respect Fiorina, but I'd respect her more if she was right.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#101106: Sep 17th 2015 at 2:08:27 PM

That makes me wonder.

Doesnt Trump go on a twitter rage after he does something? Has he yet to rail on how he won the CNN debate?

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
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#101107: Sep 17th 2015 at 2:36:18 PM

Yes, he has.

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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#101108: Sep 17th 2015 at 2:38:37 PM

Mmm. Points for one boastful cry but still no name calling. Fiorina musta really got to him.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#101109: Sep 17th 2015 at 3:17:17 PM

Fiorina ain't Megyn Kelly who, despite the FNC mantle, is still just a journalist, a career that carries very little weight with the GOP in general and the far right in particular. She's a fellow candidate who isn't easy to trip up.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#101110: Sep 17th 2015 at 3:25:04 PM

Mmm. You know, reading a few things there is a measure that appears that I like. witter followers and facebook likes seem to be giving a looksee on what the general populace is thinking.

Many variables are in play here but for estimates it might be a decent thing to take a guess in.

Also is it just me or is Bernie hilarious because he looks like an angry old man that wants to put things in order? All like GOD DANG THESE YOUNGSTER DUN FUCKIN UP AND NOT TALKIN ABOUT THE RACIAL INEQUALITY AHMA SHOW THEM HERE RABBLE RABBLE and it is cute and funny because it is like a loving, angry grandpa?

I am not making light of the subjects he touches, which are important, just of the fact that he is old and crankily angry. That does not make me any less of an asshole, but I have forsaken my dignity a long time ago anyways.

edited 17th Sep '15 3:27:49 PM by Aszur

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ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#101111: Sep 17th 2015 at 3:35:01 PM

It's weird, because Bernie Sanders looks like the epitome of a cranky old man Republican, but he's actually a liberal.

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#101113: Sep 17th 2015 at 3:54:36 PM

Hey. Don't you dare mess with my "Cranky old man" image. I find those funny.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
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#101114: Sep 17th 2015 at 4:15:29 PM

[up][up]Yet people still use them anyway.

But I admit some them are funny.

edited 17th Sep '15 4:16:22 PM by Skycobra51

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#101115: Sep 17th 2015 at 5:38:16 PM

It looks like Walmart is trying to invoke the 14th Amendment's "arbitrary and irrational discrimination" clause against Texas so they can sell hard liquor.

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#101116: Sep 17th 2015 at 6:26:06 PM

[up]Why the hell do they wanna sell hard liquor anyway? They already sell everything else-mostly cheap ass imports-but still.

Plus, its Texas's right to deny Walmart their ability to sell liquor, or at least until an army of corporate lawyers say otherwise.

edited 17th Sep '15 6:31:16 PM by Skycobra51

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#101117: Sep 17th 2015 at 6:48:02 PM

Lincoln would be proud I'm sure.

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#101118: Sep 17th 2015 at 6:56:10 PM

[up][up]

You've answered your own question-Wal-Mart already sells almost everything, so why not include hard liquor?

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#101119: Sep 17th 2015 at 7:10:55 PM

[up]They don't sell porn, though as to why you'd buy it from Wal-Mart (or any other store for that matter) when you have the internet is a different matter entirely.tongue

edited 17th Sep '15 7:24:23 PM by Skycobra51

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#101120: Sep 17th 2015 at 7:20:22 PM

Cause their employees could drink some of the stored liquor to make working on Wallmart more bearable.

I think there are some laws in the US or at least on each state that require the establishment to acquire a liquor license, but it is for each store not the whole franchise.

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BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#101121: Sep 17th 2015 at 7:48:42 PM

Fiorina cant win because if she seems like a strong woman, she will be perceived as undesirable by republicans.

In the Republican voter mind woman should be submissive, or really really dumb. I mean, this is America, not... Communist Britain.

If I am wrong I will admit it but I bet Fiorina wont get over 6%

Also I am sorry if some people are annoyed that I talk about the front runner.

edited 17th Sep '15 7:52:13 PM by BAFFU

BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#101122: Sep 17th 2015 at 7:53:09 PM

Also

why doesn't the democratic party have more debate?

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#101123: Sep 17th 2015 at 7:54:40 PM

Because they're all behind Hillary.

Or, they're all have mostly the same rationale.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#101124: Sep 17th 2015 at 8:28:24 PM

Hillary has more to lose if there's a heavy debate season. Hillary also has the full support of the DNC. So the apparat is trying to keep the election as quiet as possible to avoid a brawl that might damage Hillary in the general - or worse, allow Sanders to clinch the nomination.

I personally think that they're clamping down harder because the email thing is actually hurting Hillary just a bit - the media have been hammering it loud and long enough that it's mattering by sheer value of repetition, regardless of whether anyone would ordinarily care - it's forcing Hillary to waste time dealing with it repeatedly if nothing else. And if Hillary takes too many early hits from Republicans, Sanders benefits.

edited 17th Sep '15 8:28:56 PM by Ramidel

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#101125: Sep 17th 2015 at 8:50:22 PM

Hillary's problem, besides the relatability issue, is that there is a lot of shade on the Clinton legacy that looks like dirt if you spin it the right way, which is exactly what Fox News is best at. It's a vulnerability in terms of public opinion, if not in terms of legality.

On Wal-Mart and liquor, one imagines that the Twenty-First Amendment would have something pertinent...

"The transportation or importation into any State, Territory, or possession of the United States for delivery or use therein of intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is hereby prohibited."

So states can make their own laws about the import of liquor. I can't see how it's even remotely possible to read the Fourteenth as establishing any "equal protection" claim for selling alcohol.

edited 17th Sep '15 8:52:50 PM by Fighteer

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