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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I saw a surprisingly good article recently on Cracked about bad arguments for gun ownership. One of those was the old "if everyone had a gun, we'd all be safer" saw. Because the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a ton of good guys with guns, who are poorly trained, can't tell each other apart from the bad guys, and turn "that black guy might be armed" into a mass-murder scene because of their excessive enthusiasm.
edited 15th Sep '15 6:37:23 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Obama on liberal college students who want to be "coddled": "That’s not the way we learn"
Rather than lethal weaponry, I'd rather guns that fire something that can disable a person but not kill them be more common somehow. Though that could be very tricky - for example, maybe a Taser would electrocute somebody who's wet, thus creating a lethal situation rather than preventing one.
Still, it would at least solve the "good guys fucked up" problem.
I think we need a general investment in non-lethal area-suppression weaponry.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
You mean even more?
This law isn't about "gunna carry muh AK/AR with me on the zoo" it is for CC and OC carriers not breaking any laws without knowing or having to leave their guns somewhere else without their oversight.
Also that Cracked column was horrible straw manning.
Inter arma enim silent legesOr they could just not carry guns like normal people. It's not a strawman when it's the truth. While I used to be fairly tolerant of pro-gun arguments, they have become increasingly strident and hollow over the past few years as it becomes clear that having firearms in private hands only increases the danger to the general public.
edited 15th Sep '15 7:15:57 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Yes, Medinoc, most of the schools in Texas are still public. I understand that was probably sarcasm, but it was very very poor sarcasm. And no, we don't have a no carry clause in the constitution.
We do have all "no gun" signs coming down on school grounds come sometime around January. I can't remember if this applies to just colleges or any and all school grounds, which in this case includes a convention center I often work at. Which is right next door to a high school.
It's not staw man, because the arguments attacked there actually are arguments that gun owners use. It's just that Luke in his signature foam-mouthed holier-than-thou manner manages to sound just as stupid and rabid as these arguments are. No easy task.
Nevermind the fact that you just dismissed an entire group of people as not worthy of your consideration because they don't fit your definition of "normal".
People can't help being bigger than me but they can definitely help having a gun. If someone chooses to have one on them it makes me question their motives. They wouldn't have it around if they didn't think there was a possibility they would start firing. Even if they'd only shoot at the bad guy there's no guarantee they won't hit me by accident.
I feel like the statement needs nuance. It's 'normal' to have a gun if you're going on a hunting trip or you're doing something that gives you a reasonable expectation that you might need to shoot something that isn't a random human being. It's not normal to go into a coffee shop with one on open display, though, and we shouldn't pretend that people aren't being dicks by doing it just because it's not illegal.
Part of being a responsible gun owner is recognizing that people shouldn't know you have a gun in everyday situations where you should have no pressing reason to want to use one. How would you feel if people walked around with axes strapped to their backs with nary a tree to cut down for miles around?
Furthermore, I think Guantanamo must be destroyed.![]()
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I thought Sikhs were supposed to carry swords. I'm pretty sure that's not allowed in America. To get back to your point I actually would be less concerned if they were clearly Sikh. It would indicate they did that for religious reasons. Now if a person that didn't look Sikh walked into a store with a bladed weapon my reaction would be the same to seeing a gun.
edited 15th Sep '15 7:55:18 AM by Kostya
Of course, I can see Bible-thumpers ignoring that and finding a way to justify their anti-gay waste of time.
One of the things I've come to notice is that people will do the thing they want to first, then justify if later. And their justification doesn't even need to make sense. It only needs to exist. If one doesn't work, pull another out of your ass. If you run out of good justifications, invent a bad one.
@ Karkadinn Aside the lone star state and a few others like Arizona, CC among gun carriers is the norm but there are states where getting the CC license is harder than getting the OC, the AK/AR slung on their shoulders are a very fucking tiny minority but they get the most exposition.
When gun owners see the idiots saying "Da secund amidment allous me to carrie muh ay aur and muh ay kay in dat restourant" are usually yelling "stop making us look like idiots".
I carry at least one knife and a switchblade with me all the time because I can't get a license where I live yet only my close friends know about that, yet I got close of having to use them. There are probably several people with guns nearby but you'd never know because they aren't dipshit attention whores.
edited 15th Sep '15 8:00:58 AM by AngelusNox
Inter arma enim silent leges

Remember, it's Texas. I wouldn't be surprised if the state constitution outright bans creating gun-free zones on public territory.
Which, if it applies to zoos, probably also applies to schools... assuming there are still public schools in Texas.
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