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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Hm. Chris Christie seems the most dead-on-arrival. Jeb Bush still has a chance because the establishment has to decide to back someone, and he and Walker are both looking about equally nonexistent right now. It's such an ugly baby contest that either of them could get the support of the plutocracy and the moderates.
Remember that in both 2008 and 2012, the eventual Republican candidate had been dead in the water at one point, but then phoenixed himself once the primaries actually kicked off.
edited 10th Sep '15 6:13:54 PM by Ramidel
Doublepost: Sanders and Hillary now too close to call in Iowa, editorial advises Hillary to start panicking.
Given that Sanders is the odds-on favorite in New Hampshire, Hillary really does need a strong showing in the Iowa caucus to avoid being put badly on the back foot.
@ Fighteer
What's the worst that could happen?
Mankind not being to advance enough to leave the Earth and other accomplishments that will never happen because The Bible says God will initiate the End Times at an indefinite point in time.
Anyways, back to something on-topic: For legal migration, do they ask whether you graduated from college or not?
And another random thought, because my brain is firing in all directions right now.
Warren Buffett is highly unlikely to see 2024 (2032 is really an outside bet), and Soros is just as old, but I'm wondering if there's any leftist super-rich who could run for the White House in 2020 or 2024 on the Trump model, except speaking for the social liberal position (slightly to the left of Sanders, say). Would Buffett, for example, have the credibility to run on a platform opposing the super-rich?
2024 will be the year of Elizabeth Warren. I'm calling it now.
Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.From the ones considered bigger names, probably Ricky Perry.from the huge field of no-hopers... eh, who knows or cares.
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |Watch Cory Booker. 2024 might be a bit early, but he's played his cards well so far and channels that progressive aura, even if he doesn't always live up to it. Also, Keegan Michael-Key can play him easily, so yeah.
edited 10th Sep '15 10:03:13 PM by Artificius
"I have no fear, for fear is the little death that kills me over and over. Without fear, I die but once."Representative Louie Gohmert (R-TX) has said he will quit Congress if the Iran nuclear deal passes.
edited 10th Sep '15 10:42:39 PM by tclittle
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."Rick Perry is already out of the running; he simply ran out of money and actually declared his run dead. He got nowhere near as close as last time. I suppose this is less embarrassing than that weird near faint he experienced on stage the last time, though.
I gotta say though, I'd kind of like to see Fiorinna and Trump debate it out. Just to see if she really can outsmart him because she's been an unexpectedly strong candidates as all these second and third stringers go. Christie's in the next debate too, so we might get to see him have a go on Trump.
Americans are obsessing over strangers' sex lives
instead of paying attention to economic fuckery. Excerpts below.
CE Os of large corporations now earn 300 times the wages of average workers. Insider trading is endemic on Wall Street, where hedge-fund and private-equity moguls are taking home hundreds of millions.
A handful of extraordinarily wealthy people are investing unprecedented sums in the upcoming election, seeking to rig the economy for their benefit even more than it’s already rigged.
<snip>
And in that era, the wages of most Americans rose.
Profitable firms didn’t lay off their workers. They didn’t replace full-time employees with independent contractors, or bust unions. They gave their workers a significant share of the gains.
Consumers, workers, and the community were considered stakeholders of almost equal entitlement.
We invested in education and highways and social services. We financed all of this with our taxes.
The marginal income tax on the highest income earners never fell below 70 percent. Even the effective rate, after all deductions and tax credits, was still well above 50%.
We had a shared sense of public morality because we knew we were all in it together. We had been through a Great Depression and a terrible war, and we understood our interdependence.
<snip>
Shareholder capitalism ushered in an era of excess. In the 1980s it brought junk bond scandals and insider trading.
In the 1990s it brought a speculative binge culminating in the bursting of the dotcom bubble. At the urging of Wall Street, Bill Clinton repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, which had separated investment from commercial banking.
In 2001 and 2002 it produced Enron and the corporate looting scandals, revealing not only the dark side of some of the most admired companies in America but also the complicity of Wall Street, many of whose traders were actively involved.
The Street’s subsequent gambling in derivatives and risky mortgages resulted in the crash of 2008, and a massive taxpayer-financed bailout.
<snip>
Public morality can’t be legislated but it can be encouraged.
Glass-Steagall must be resurrected. Big banks have to be broken up.
CEO pay must be bridled. Pay in excess of $1 million shouldn’t be deductible from corporate income taxes. Corporations with high ratios of executive pay to typical workers should face higher tax rates than those with lower ratios.
People earning tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars a year should pay the same 70 percent tax rate top earners paid before 1981.
And we must get big money out of politics – reversing those Supreme Court rulings, providing public financing of elections, and getting full disclosure of the sources of all campaign contributions.
None of this is possible without a broadly based citizen movement to rescue our democracy, take back our economy, and restore a minimal standard of public morality.
America’s problems have nothing to do with what happens bedrooms, or whether women are allowed to end their pregnancies.
Our problems have everything to do with what occurs in boardrooms, and whether corporations and wealthy individuals are allowed to undermine our democracy.

Yeah, I defiantly get a feeling that Hollywood (and some other popular media) has a beef with Christianity and the Right in general.
Leviticus 19:34