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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I think cigarettes cause cancer, but I don't expect every toke to cause a tumor.
x4 They may be on the spectrum. I think they're generally just carrying a bunch of the gene variants which have been implicated and can be expressed when paired with some of the other variants through their spouse or sperm donor. Or something.
edited 4th Sep '15 7:44:10 PM by Artificius
"I have no fear, for fear is the little death that kills me over and over. Without fear, I die but once."![]()
So genes can have many different variations called Single-Nucleotide Polymorphisms or SN Ps running in the gene pool. You might have like two of them for any one gene through your parents, but there could be many more at large among the other humans. Autism is also apparently, definitely not caused by just one gene, with dozens if not hundreds implicated. So maybe one parent has many of those implicated SN Ps, but enough (and the right ones) that offset this and create a more neurotypical individual during development. Say this guy or gal pairs with a partner who they like because they remind them of themselves in some indefinite way? Might be they just selected someone who has a bunch of those SN Ps themselves, and any children they have will have a higher chance to be autistic than either parent did, not taking into account how any of the implicated genes interact (since science apparently hasn't figured that out yet). But I don't want to get off topic.
...Basically, we're all rolling the genetic dice in a tabletop game we don't understand yet, some sets are weighted, and thimerosol isn't the one thing you can avoid as a parent to protect your kids from rolling a lawful-good paladin. They're already rolled.
edited 4th Sep '15 10:26:41 PM by Artificius
"I have no fear, for fear is the little death that kills me over and over. Without fear, I die but once."Yes. Refusing to properly care for your child is neglect, which is a criminal offense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_neglect
Since vaccines fall more under prevention rather than medicine... hmm...
Right now, my position is just to let them be if they don't want to vaccinate their kids. It's like parents who let their kids become obese.
But yeah... I kinda want them to sign waivers that tax payers don't have to shoulder the hospital bill if their kids get easily prevented by vaccines diseases.
Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.Also remember that it doesn't just put their kid at risk, it puts t risk anyone who for whatever reason (say an allergy or weak immune system) can't be vaccinated and has to rely on herd immunity to keep them safe.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranRepublicans like ideas proposed by Trump
but hate the exact same position if it's proposed by Obama, proving that way too many people don't give a flying fuck about actual politics beyond their chosen avatar.
One reason for that: most Americans, regardless of their political views, don't have a solid opinion about every single issue of the day, particularly when it concerns a complicated or obscure topic. People tend, reasonably, to rely on partisan cues — if a politician they support is in favor of a bill, they're likely to think it's a good idea, or vice versa.
As a classic case in point, Republicans are more likely to oppose repealing the 1975 Public Affairs Act — which doesn't actually exist — when they're told that President Barack Obama wants to do so, while Democrats object when they're told it's a Republican proposal. But even when it comes to real issues, reactions to polls can vary greatly, depending on the wording.
How much can namedropping a politician matter? Conveniently, Republican front-runner Donald Trump shares a couple of policy positions with Obama and other leading Democrats. In a new You Gov poll, we randomly assigned one half of the 1,000 Americans surveyed to say whether they agreed with positions Trump held. The rest were asked whether they agreed with positions held by Obama, Secretary of State John Kerry or current Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. The trick: the positions were actually the same.
Yet respondents' reactions were decidedly different. Hearing that Trump supported a certain policy was enough to cause Democrats to reconsider ideas they'd otherwise support, and for Republicans to endorse positions they'd usually avoid.
There's one level worse than anti-vaxxers - the Faith Healers. A couple was convicted of manslaughter last year for letting their 12-year-old daughter die from diabetes
, praying for a cure instead of getting her treatment.
And this particular quote strikes me as a bit of crocodile tears, because I doubt she would have "violated" her religious convictions by taking the reasonable goddamned option.
A tearful, emotional Wenona Rossiter said, “There are no words to the pain a parent feels when she loses a child. … There is not a day that goes by that I wish I could go back, I would’ve known I could change something.”
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Because it's man's hubris that enables the cure, not God's Will (TM).
But yeah, I think of this old joke about the man and the flood
- which is a bit more fitting than I'd intended given the Hurricane Katrina retrospectives that have been going on lately.
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That's what I have in the linked joke.
edited 5th Sep '15 9:03:46 AM by ironballs16
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"There's an old joke about that sort of thing. A man is sitting on his roof as several flooding is starting. A truck pulls up and offers to drive him to safety. He refuses because he's confident God will protect him. A little later a boat comes by and he refuses for the same reason. A helicopter approaches as the water is creeping onto the roof of his house. Once again the man refuses to be helped. He dies during the flood and chews God out for not protecting him. God's response is to say he's an idiot for refusing the truck, boat, and helicopter that He sent to help him.
edited 5th Sep '15 8:55:57 AM by Kostya
On the anti-vaccination thing, is the argument generally that even though they help prevent diseases they may also cause autism and the parents in question don't want to take the risk or that they don't believe the vaccinations help at all and that they may cause autism, so in addition to not helping they generally harm? Which is more common, you think?
I don't think that's equivalent at all. Not only is leaving your child vulnerable to shit like measles a lot more direct than the health complications you can get from being overweight, unvaccinated children pose a threat to their children around them.
Yes, if your not prepared to raise autistic child, don't become a parent period.
edited 5th Sep '15 9:20:51 AM by DrStarky
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It is unfair for the kids to suffer due to their parents stupidity.
Besides if those morons were so sure that vaccines cause autism, why the fuck aren't them autistic either?
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