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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#99876: Sep 3rd 2015 at 12:13:29 PM

That's probably the deputy clerks, who have now been told to issue licences or proceed directly to jail.

Also she was jailed instead of finned because fines are designed to make someone comply, and it's pretty clear that she's not going to comply whatever happens, so she's being removed from the situation.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#99877: Sep 3rd 2015 at 12:44:46 PM

I'm sure she'll become a martyr for a stupid cause very quickly.

The cause of taking away people's rights. Because their particular version of Jesus said so. (Never mind that Christians who support gay marriage and believe Jesus is okay with it would be having their religious rights trampled upon. But to these clowns, "freedom of religion" means "doing what my particular interpretation of my particular religion wants".)

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#99878: Sep 3rd 2015 at 12:54:54 PM

Hopefully this'll get across to other employees that they still have to do their jobs, even if they don't like it. Not that there was a huge uproar except for a few people anyway, but seeing someone actually have to suffer consequences for trying to ignore/break the new law will probably deter others in this case.

@Jack: the word is "Border". "Boarder" is a person who rents a room somewhere.

BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#99879: Sep 3rd 2015 at 12:58:09 PM

If there really isn't a huge uproar, then I think it means that most of the country is well aware of the fact that gay marriage is legal and accepted, even if some of them don't like it.

If they truly thought they had the support of the American people on their side, they'd raise hell. Instead, just a few people screaming "religious freedom!" (with a rather limited, self-serving definition), and that's about it.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#99880: Sep 3rd 2015 at 1:20:00 PM

[up][up][up]

Sadly, the counterpoint to that is that "We're not forcing them to believe what we do! We're just not going to be forced to believe what they do!"

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#99881: Sep 3rd 2015 at 1:27:50 PM

What's more likely to happen is that these people rally around separation of church and state, due to defining marriage as a purely religious institution, requiring it to be ordained by an official of some religious organization. (Note that it doesn't have to be their brand of Christianity.)

The exact reasoning behind doing that is a bit too complex for this thread, but I could go into it in the LGBT religion thread. Regardless, I see that as the most likely possibility.

edited 3rd Sep '15 1:28:06 PM by TotemicHero

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#99882: Sep 3rd 2015 at 1:34:19 PM

[up]

That still doesn't address someone using a secular position to deny people applying for marriage licenses, regardless of whether they want a Religious or Civil ceremony.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#99884: Sep 3rd 2015 at 1:49:18 PM

Petty. Well, it feels that way to me, since this gay marriage is something I support. But it's a fucking law about giving people rights. I can understand, say, someone in the 19th century going to jail to protest slavery, but gay marriage is fucking nothing by giving rights, not taking them away. Moron.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#99885: Sep 3rd 2015 at 1:50:38 PM

Yeah, her case can be dismissed with more or less a cursory glance. I'm not ''entirely' for the gay rights movement, but she is 100% in the wrong here.

edited 3rd Sep '15 1:51:16 PM by Protagonist506

Leviticus 19:34
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#99886: Sep 3rd 2015 at 1:51:10 PM

But The Bible says that homosexuality is evil and must be purged. Apparently that means she's above the law or something.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#99887: Sep 3rd 2015 at 1:55:44 PM

The Bible says a lot of things. And Christians disagree with what it says/means. So calling her particular interpretation "God's law" is just as meaningless as a liberal, a conservative, and a libertarian all saying they support "freedom".

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#99888: Sep 3rd 2015 at 1:59:43 PM

Plus I don't see her following the rest of the stuff laid out in Leviticus. What with the four marriages and all.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#99889: Sep 3rd 2015 at 3:05:31 PM

I consider it "Discriminating against my right to discriminate!"

Course she doesn't really have the right to discriminate anymore, not in her job.

What fun. I was suspecting fallout after the Supreme Court decision, so this wasn't surprising. I don't really expect religious exemptions for jobs like this, but I can see it as religious people believing the government is trampling on their religion.

Well I'll just keep waiting for God's wrath hurting towards Earth in the form of a giant meteor.

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
Skycobra51 A suitable case for treatment from The US of A Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Only knew I loved her when I let her go
A suitable case for treatment
#99890: Sep 3rd 2015 at 4:16:24 PM

[up]He's-a cooking-a something uptongue

[up][up][up][up] Hope your being saracstic, cause I never read that in the Bible. Anywhere. This is coming from a Baptist who's perfectly fine with gay marriage.

An oxymoron, I know, but like the old saying goes, Treat others the way you want to be treated.

Plus if I'm going to hell, it sure won't be for supporting Gay Marriage.

edited 3rd Sep '15 4:24:41 PM by Skycobra51

Look upon my privilege ye mighty and despair.
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#99891: Sep 3rd 2015 at 4:41:36 PM

Is the whole thing with Clinton's emails a big deal or not? I'm getting conflicting reports on this.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#99892: Sep 3rd 2015 at 4:47:13 PM

[up][up]Well it has to be in there somewhere because the bible-thumpers won't shut up about it.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#99893: Sep 3rd 2015 at 4:48:49 PM

[up][up] The average person doesn't really seem to care, beyond thinking her approach to e-mails (using her private e-mail for official business) was kind of dumb, but Fox won't shut up about it.

edited 3rd Sep '15 4:49:14 PM by Zendervai

Skycobra51 A suitable case for treatment from The US of A Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Only knew I loved her when I let her go
A suitable case for treatment
#99894: Sep 3rd 2015 at 4:52:50 PM

[up][up]God how I hate bible thumpers, most of them are those born again nut jobs. Wish they'd shut the hell up. They give Christians a bad name.

I Knew one at school, thought she could "enlighten me" about Christianity, despite the fact I told her many times that I'm a Baptist and she's preaching to the choir.

edited 3rd Sep '15 4:53:07 PM by Skycobra51

Look upon my privilege ye mighty and despair.
LinkToTheFuture A real bad hombre from somewhere completely different Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
A real bad hombre
#99895: Sep 3rd 2015 at 4:55:43 PM

All I really know about it is that Hillary did something stupid and that Fox and the Republicans desperately want it to be a big deal.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
Artificius from about a foot and a half away from a monitor. Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
#99896: Sep 3rd 2015 at 5:13:02 PM

That pretty much sums it up. As corrupt as she's reputed to be, there's not much else they can hit her with which will deter her voters. She's already proven her chops when they tried to publicly flog her over Benghazi (no matter the facts of that thing), and are trying again with this. It's also possible that they're trying to keep their base incensed so that they don't stray into her camp.

edited 3rd Sep '15 5:16:17 PM by Artificius

"I have no fear, for fear is the little death that kills me over and over. Without fear, I die but once."
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#99897: Sep 3rd 2015 at 5:14:51 PM

[up][up][up] I believe that the Old Testement stuff, alongside a misreading of other stuff and a very specific reading of Paul's stuff (which even if what's mentioned is considered to be homosexuality, simply puts it in a list of things alongside drinking).

edited 3rd Sep '15 5:15:05 PM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Skycobra51 A suitable case for treatment from The US of A Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Only knew I loved her when I let her go
A suitable case for treatment
#99898: Sep 3rd 2015 at 5:17:30 PM

[up]Drinking is probably the least of my mortal sinstongue

Look upon my privilege ye mighty and despair.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#99899: Sep 3rd 2015 at 5:19:42 PM

I still want to try and count the number of times things like pre-marital sex, drinking, partying, lying and such are condemn in the New Testement, then compare the number to the number of times homosexuality is.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Skycobra51 A suitable case for treatment from The US of A Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Only knew I loved her when I let her go
A suitable case for treatment
#99900: Sep 3rd 2015 at 5:28:30 PM

[up]I think the Old Testament covers that(not sure though, its been awhile.), the New Testament is just depressing with its talk of Apokolips on Earth.

edited 3rd Sep '15 5:58:31 PM by Skycobra51

Look upon my privilege ye mighty and despair.

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