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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
That in and of itself is remarkable. Trump's rise was already unbelievable; Carson's is equally so. What's even more amazing, though: The third-place candidate in this new poll is businesswoman Carly Fiorina, who like Trump and Carson has never held public office. In fact, they are the only three hopefuls in the GOP field who can say that, and they are 1-2-3.
In fourth place? Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), who perhaps more than anybody embodies the outsider mentality from within the U.S. Senate.
The combined vote total of those four candidates? 65 percent.
From Two-thirds of Iowa Republicans want a president from outside government
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I wonder if Democrat voters feel similarly? Either way, this is very telling. People are well aware that the people in government now blatantly don't represent the people.
That said, are they gonna do anything about Congress? A great president can barely do shit without at least some support from Congress.
There's levels of outsider, being an outsider completely or being an outsider to the establishment mainstream. After all, the far right generally hold political office but are considered outsiders, same with the far (depending on ones perspective) left. Look at the UK, Corbyn has been an MP for ages but is still considered an outsider, Farage is an MEP but is likewise considered one.
It's more about beliefs and background then actual current official place in the power structure.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranSo we got this Kentucky county clerk who refuses to give out gay marriage licenses because "God's law" and all that.
Never mind that not all Christians think the same way. One Christian can say "God wants this" and another Christian can say "No, God actually wants this", and both can genuinely believe they're following God's law, so it's a meaningless argument.
When something can mean anything, it means nothing. (my quote; hope it catches on)
edited 1st Sep '15 12:02:41 PM by BonsaiForest
Not so much, at least over here a blank ballot is counted as spoiled and put in the same catagory as ones where something simply went wrong with the ballot (to many votes, marks that identity the voter, a penis being drawn on it, ect.), while a "none of the above" option would allow for the creation of a specific easily manageable catagory for votes that are trying to say "they all suck".
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranArticle saying that Hillary Clinton is a bad choice for the left for president
Along with the Iraq War, Democrats disdained George W. Bush for the Patriot Act, his expansive views on executive power, and his awful record on transparency. Clinton voted for the Patriot Act. She shows every sign of embracing a similarly expansive view of executive power. And she took extraordinary steps to shield her emails from federal public-records and freedom of information laws.
Then there are her financial backers.
Many Democrats are sympathetic to Occupy Wall Street and to the notion that wealthy special interests on Wall Street are rigging the system by buying off politicians. Who is more bought off than Clinton? It isn’t just her campaign coffers and her family’s foundation that benefit from Wall Street money. Her family’s private accounts are flush with funds from big banks, including at least one that benefitted from her tenure at State and paid her husband seven figures for a speaking gig. It is naive to think that she won’t look out for the interests of Big Finance in Washington.
And on social issues like gay marriage and police misconduct her approach has been to lag public opinion rather than to lead it toward an embrace of progressive reforms.
Didn't most democrats support the invasion of Iraq and the Patriot Act at the time? I mean, from my impression of Bernie Sanders he would have voted against it, but that little excerpt seems to be trying to paint Clinton as worse than other democrats because she supported actions that were by and large popularly supported at the time by Democrats as well.
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And yet, she'd still be better than anyone the Republicans are fielding by several orders of magnitude. There is also reason to believe that her true values are left of her voting record.
edited 1st Sep '15 1:07:08 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"From various interviews that have been conducted that indicate that she'd love to be more "liberal" but the Overton window makes it impossible.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

Yeah the current carriers in the Ford class that they have announced the names for are the Ford itself, a new Enterprise, and a new JFK.
I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.