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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
So far all we know is that it was a live broadcast, shots were fired, they tried to flee, and they were killed.
On the other topic, academic studies of prejudice and bias are entirely appropriate for a university setting, but not open expressions of prejudice and bias.
edited 26th Aug '15 6:36:31 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Sure, animals and fetus aren't protected categories.
also nobody calls for a fetus to be destroyed because it's a fetus, that we would let people get offended about, the same way we're okay with people getting offended by people calling for the killing of a black person because they're black. I think all of that applies to animals to, we don't call for the killing of animals because they're animals, if people did I think we'd be okay with people getting upset.
Keep in mind that these rules also lock out anarchist nuts, as veteran status (or lack of) is a protected category, so "all soilders are baby murderes who should die" is a no no the same as "all gays are baby murderes who should die".
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In the public arena, the rules about protection of free speech, right to petition, and so forth apply. The government cannot prevent them from saying those things so long as they don't directly incite violence and don't commit any other crimes while exercising their rights.
However, a college campus does not fall under the First Amendment.
Also, this. Nobody marches around a college campus waving a placard saying, "Abort all the fetuses!" or, "Torture animals!" I hope, anyway. That would be a weird campus.
edited 26th Aug '15 6:57:07 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Oh, I don't think colleges should be required to let people express bigoted opinions. If they want to ban certain forms of speech, that's their right. I just think that they shouldn't.
And people may not advocate killing all fetuses or all animals, but you will find plenty of folks who don't regard those entities as people, believe they can be owned like property, and think human beings should be able to kill them with impunity. For someone who thinks that a fetus or an animal is entitled to the same human rights as you or me, those opinions are monstrously offensive. Yet we still expect pro-lifers and the more extreme animal rights activists to co-exist peacefully on campus with pro-choicers and people who support recreational hunting.
As a human being, you have the inherent ability to find things offensive. That doesn't convey the right to shove your offense into people's faces, as long as those people are not actively infringing on any of your personal rights. "Not being offended" is not one of those rights.
edited 26th Aug '15 7:09:57 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"As much as the animal rights groups would like to tell you otherwise humans and animals are not the same thing.
As for free speech and everyone being entitled to an opinion. It's true that everyone is entitled to an opinion. That doesn't mean every opinion must be seriously considered and given equal weight.
A bit more specification is I think warranted.
It's more about allowing or not allowing mothers to terminate their own pregnancies. As for the killing of animals, it's primarily about humane treament, including humane killing of animals.
Animals tend to die in horrible ways. As for abortion, thankfully - current research seems to indicate that it takes more than 7 months before fetuses can feel pain.
imho, women should immediately assume prenancy if they miss a single period.
Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.We aren't going to have an abortion debate here; it is legal according to the laws of the United States, as is animal experimentation (and consumption, for that matter).
edited 26th Aug '15 7:31:04 AM by Fighteer
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. Well, it is technically ending a life. Heck, I murder a lot of insects.
And before meat-lovers get upset with me about how it's their right to scarf down too much carcinogenic protein, I am pro animal euthanasia. Including humane killing of unwanted pets.
Animal experimentation though... depends on the amount of pain.
Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.I am pretty certain that the circumstances of the definition of Free Speech were very different than the ones they are used on nowadays. I doubt the people who came up with such an idea in the past could have foreseen the many implications it could have nowadays, specially by making it an important part in law.
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes@ Le Garcon, well that recruiting station that got shot up by an ISIS guy was in the South, so it is a possibility.
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