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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#99376: Aug 25th 2015 at 4:32:39 PM

That isn't public healthcare, that's regulation on the private market plus subsidies. :v

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#99378: Aug 25th 2015 at 5:01:31 PM

It's funny that someone mentioned Ann Coulter. Isn't she actually one of the Trump supporters?

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#99379: Aug 25th 2015 at 5:03:51 PM

[up][up][up] Well we just got if for you so your going to have to wait until Christmas to get a new one sweetie. Now go and play with your Obama care.[lol]

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#99380: Aug 25th 2015 at 5:07:19 PM

I would be happy if we actually had Obamacare...

Obamacare is awesome.

I wish I had it back...

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#99381: Aug 25th 2015 at 5:24:36 PM

[up][up][up] Yes. She once said on the O'Reilly factor that Trump had an "army." Okay...

David Duke supports Trump's rhetoric.

DD (no, not Daredevil) also ran for U.S. Pres in 1992. The fact that a former Klansman and a clueless asshole billionaire can run for President shows how sad America's politics truly are.

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#99382: Aug 25th 2015 at 6:15:50 PM

No surprise that Ann "sociopathic fascist" Coulter supports Trump.

Trump got pressed by a reporter (Jorge Ramon) on immigration. He told him to go back to Univision and then had him removed from the room. Though he was later allowed to return.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/25/politics/donald-trump-megyn-kelly-iowa-rally/index.html

Trump's campaign stops are looking more and more like Klan rallies. The man and his supporters' stupidity and bile are a collective negative on the overall worth of humanity.

edited 25th Aug '15 6:18:32 PM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#99384: Aug 25th 2015 at 9:18:14 PM

would I be a scum sucking terrorist immigrant leeching off the United States' teat?
Of course you would, Aszur! After all, you're only a Mexican. tongue
Trump said he "totally disagrees" with Ailes and said he does not think Kelly is a "quality journalist"
Damnit, Trump, stop saying things I agree with!

And speaking of David Duke, while I think I saw a different article, the one part I thought was the funniest was this:

“So although we can’t trust him to do what he says, the other Republican candidates won’t even say what he says. So he’s certainly the best of the lot. And he’s certainly somebody that we should get behind in terms, ya know, raising the image of this thing.”
In essence, "He's lying to us like every politician, but he's better at telling us those lies, so let's vote for him!" Never has a truer and more honest sentiment been said about an election. [lol]

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#99386: Aug 25th 2015 at 9:32:44 PM

I... who would try to copyright a sandwich?

You know, I really don't understand all the secrets restaurants keep for their food. It's not like trained individuals couldn't figure it out by taste testing what they eat.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#99387: Aug 25th 2015 at 10:18:18 PM

[up] Well King corp managed to copyright 'saga' so really anything is up for grabs if you got the cash.

edited 25th Aug '15 10:20:56 PM by Memers

probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#99388: Aug 25th 2015 at 10:45:05 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald%27s_legal_cases

Mc Donalds wants badly to own "Mc".

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#99390: Aug 26th 2015 at 1:04:53 AM

I... who would try to copyright a sandwich?

Apple managed to copyright the square and the rectangle. Anything is possible.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#99391: Aug 26th 2015 at 2:20:35 AM

Supposedly a new reporting system at Rutgers University tells students there is "no such thing as free speech" and to "think before you speak." Nothing has been said yet if students think the policy is Double Plus Good or not.

Rutgers University students, you are being watched.

That appears to be the message a Rutgers.edu web page would like the campus community to absorb. The web page is maintained by the Bias Prevention & Education Committee, which chillingly warns students that there is “no such thing as 'free' speech,” and to “think before you speak.” From the web page:

Since 1992, the Bias Prevention Committee has monitored the New Brunswick/Piscataway campus for bias incidents and has provided bias prevention education to staff, students, and faculty. …

Bias Acts Are:

Verbal, written, physical, psychological acts that threaten or harm a person or group on the basis of race, religion, color, sex, age, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, national origin, ancestry, disability, marital status, civil union status, domestic partnership status, atypical heredity or cellular blood trait, military service or veteran status.

If you experience or witness an act of bias or hate, report it to someone in authority. You may file a report on line at www.bias.rutgers.edu and you will be contacted within 24 hours.

Rutgers’ bias incident reporting form is identical to the one used by the University of Colorado-Boulder, which was criticized by free speech and privacy advocates (Reason included) back in May. It asks students to report on each other and provide addresses, phone numbers, identification numbers, and even dates of birth—any information that could be used to identify a victim, witness, or person of concern in a bias incident.

Like Colorado, Rutgers defines bias so broadly that all kinds of clearly protected speech would likely trigger an incident report and subsequent investigation by this Orwellian committee.

However, the university administration seems to be backing off some of the committee’s claims. When Campus Reform first reported the existence of the web page last week, it looked like this (Edit: Link fixed). By Monday, it looked like this. The difference? The university removed the assertion that there is no such thing as 'free' speech.

I suppose this means that administrators recently reviewed the page, and stand by the rest of its claims.

Now of course, technically, the university is right - as we've argued many times here on Tv Tropes, the First Amendment only protects you from the government impinging on your speech, not private universities. But it does seem like a very bad example to set to the up-and-coming generation of students.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#99392: Aug 26th 2015 at 2:29:17 AM

I'm all for it. To methey are closing a loophole.

On both my undergrad and graduate campuses we had free speeech zones and often if not always, it was occupied by some entity spewing hateful craps like how we were all going to hell and what not.

So under these rules, one can have a respectful theological discussion or peacefully protest, but you can't stand on the sidewalk with a megaphone or screaming bile and disrupt the whole campus.

I am all for it.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#99393: Aug 26th 2015 at 3:39:45 AM

The Latino Media's disdain for Donald Trump. Normally I'm in favor of media objectivity, and skeptical of people who claim our media is too centrist because it doesn't maul the other side sufficiently and hold theirs up like a paragon of virtue. Still, you can hardly call people and their viewers rapists, and call for the repeal of their citizenship, and expect them to objectively cover you.

Plus OBJECTIVELY, Trump is spewing racist rhetoric, OBJECTIVELY he is seeking to undermine a century of Constitutional interpretation, and OBJECTIVELY his tuppe is so obviously fake.[lol]

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#99394: Aug 26th 2015 at 4:56:06 AM

Yeah that definition of bias doesn't seem to be particularly broad. Also some evidence to back up the suggestion that the investigation group is "Orwellian" would be nice.

Now I admit that the desire to take in personal information on such a scale for anyone who is an alleged perpetrator of, victim of or witness to an incident of bias does seem a bit worrying. But that may just be a presentation thing, in the end them wanting to ID witnesses, victims and possibly perpetrators is kinda a must for any investigation.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#99395: Aug 26th 2015 at 5:18:22 AM

Universities are supposed to be a safe haven for intellectual exploration: an environment where people, young and old, can go to get their ideas tested and learn new ones.

Certain ideas and certain forms of expression have been demonstrated to be inimical to that environment, particularly expressions of racial, religious, gender, and sexual bias. The "bias police" are overtly stating this principle so that there can be no mistake about it. I generally approve.

Anyway, I've learned to ignore anyone in the United States who screams "Orwell! 1984!" when confronted with restrictions on what they can say in a private setting.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#99396: Aug 26th 2015 at 6:04:08 AM

America is never going to turn into 1984, it'll be Brave New World if anything.

Oh really when?
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#99397: Aug 26th 2015 at 6:13:29 AM

I dunno, I'd say that, in terms of preserving an academic climate, how you present your opinions is more important than what those opinions actually are. If someone wants to argue that Nazi Germany had the right idea, I think they should be allowed to do so, provided they engage other people in a calm, respectful manner and are willing to accept when someone says "I'm not going to have this conversation with you".

That only applies to personal interactions, though. If someone wants to hold a public rally, that's something the university needs to exert more control over.

carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#99398: Aug 26th 2015 at 6:15:18 AM

No organized reports just yet, but seems that two journalists working for station WDBJ 7 were murdered on air while conducting an interview with someone.

edit- link

[down]Seems to be a Virginia local station.

edited 26th Aug '15 6:17:31 AM by carbon-mantis

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#99399: Aug 26th 2015 at 6:15:45 AM

[up][up]That's true but time and time again it's been shown that those kinds of people aren't going to participate in a nice calm debate in good faith.

Much better to just toss them all out on their ass.

[up]Wait what? The hell happened? What station is that?

edited 26th Aug '15 6:16:15 AM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#99400: Aug 26th 2015 at 6:26:32 AM

[up]X3 Is it possible to say "I think that you and everyone like you should be murdered for arbitrary reasons based on race/religion/political beliefs/sexual orientation" in a respectful manner? That rather seems like something that simply saying is disrespectful.

On the journalist thing, BBC are saying two reporters in Virgina shot dead during a live report, that's all I've got.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran

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