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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#99126: Aug 20th 2015 at 2:40:48 PM

"Mister Trump. Would you be willing to kick your wife out of the country along with the rest of this nation's immigrants?"

Sad part is he would likely say yes to that anyway.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#99127: Aug 20th 2015 at 2:45:34 PM

Rubio was a child of Cuban immigrants in Florida. Who left Cuba before Fidel Castro appeared, despite what some history embellishers think.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#99128: Aug 20th 2015 at 2:53:44 PM

[up][up]TRUMP: Here's the thing; I did not explicitly state that I believe that all immigrants should be kicked out of this country. I said that Mexicans are rapists who are stealing our jobs and should be sent back to their country, and I stand by that. But not once in recent memory have I said, in these exact words, that 'All immigrants should be kicked out of this country.' You've got nothing before this to quote me on, though I guess now you've got something to quote me on.

INTERVIEWER: ...Okay, but about your wife—

TRUMP: She stays, yes.

edited 20th Aug '15 2:54:45 PM by kkhohoho

SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#99129: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:20:47 PM

The one time Trump could have told his followers to calm the hell down, and he still fucks it up. If this doesn't do anything to damage his candidacy, then America is indeed a laughingstock.

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#99130: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:21:22 PM

You act like Trump has a problem with their actions.

Or that America does.

Oh really when?
Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#99131: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:51:37 PM

Arab American fantasy author Saladin Ahmed was talking about how nervous non-Americans get during our election season because of the possibility of getting bombed to hell by whoever our new leader is. He suggested that countries where and with which we've waged war should be allowed to vote in our elections for precisely that reason.

He was probably only halfway joking.

edited 20th Aug '15 5:57:24 PM by Aprilla

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#99132: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:56:45 PM

[up]I can see his point. Hell, I'm Canadian (so pretty safe from any American invasiontongue) and I'm worried that if the conservatives win in both countries I'll see Canadian soldiers killing and dying in Iran pointlessly (the paranoia of the right/Israel's government doesn't count) within a few years.

The GOP has long since ceased to be reasonable on any front as a whole. Maybe a Trump defeat in the general is what they need, cause the defeat of their establishment candidates is only pushing them further right.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#99133: Aug 20th 2015 at 6:18:36 PM

@Fighteer, Aszur: I'm not sure that it's quite as insane as you think that the Supreme Court might blatantly throw out 150+ years of precedent and the Constitution in favor of Republican political objectives.

Kennedy tries to be an honest jurist, sure. Roberts seems to be moving in that direction. Scalia, meanwhile, marches entirely to his own drum - I think that directly having the Supreme Court invalidate a Constitutional amendment would give his "originalist" brain a little too much of an aneurysm. But I can see Alito and especially Thomas declaring the 14th Amendment unconstitutional because they said so - and I can see some of the candidates in the Republican field appointing three more justices who intend to "restore the True Constitution."

What stops this is the growing weakness of the Republican Party on a Presidential level - which is something that still requires constant action and vigilance by the Democrats to exploit.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#99134: Aug 20th 2015 at 6:33:44 PM

You can't declare an amendment unconstitutional, that's just how it is.

I mean, they could reinterpret it to "jus sanguinus" but even that would require an insane reading of the amendment as it stands.

Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#99135: Aug 20th 2015 at 6:39:06 PM

The only way to shut down a constitutional amendment is to make another amendment such as with prohibition.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#99136: Aug 20th 2015 at 6:59:34 PM

That one was always weird to me. It felt like the 18th amendment should have enabled the Volstead Act, and then they just needed to repeal the Volstead Act, not the 18th amendment, unless they were so zealous that the amendment itself banned spiritous liquors, rather than giving Congress the authority to ban them, an important distinction. Or perhaps they just thought it was unnecessary to still have the amendment on the books even if they could repeal prohibition normally.

Plus the only part they would need an amendment for is to deal with the manufacture and sale of liquor within state boundaries, since otherwise you could ban interstate liquor sales under the commerce clause.

Of course, i've never read the 18th amendment. That would help.

Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#99137: Aug 20th 2015 at 7:10:31 PM

No, the amendment itself literally banned all alcoholic beverages.

"After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all the territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited."

BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#99138: Aug 20th 2015 at 7:28:10 PM

Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz are despicable.

If Trump is the enemy of the Latino Community, those two other guys are traitors.

probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#99139: Aug 20th 2015 at 7:35:28 PM

Bush says Trump is Democratic double-agent.

imho, the Democratics are doomed if they lose next year.

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.
BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#99140: Aug 20th 2015 at 7:47:36 PM

The democrats will govern the next 16 years or more.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#99141: Aug 20th 2015 at 7:50:33 PM

If we lose the Republicans will do enough damage to the country that we'll basically be in power forever after that.

Problem is, will we survive those 4 years and will the damage to our economy, culture and foreign relations be reparable?

Honestly, if Trump wins, probably not.

Oh really when?
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#99142: Aug 20th 2015 at 8:09:40 PM

Economically i actually think Trump would be better than most of the others. Guy doesn't want to cut entitlements, for one.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#99143: Aug 20th 2015 at 8:10:52 PM

What he personally wants is irrelevant. If the rest of the Republicans want it it will pass anyway. That's ignoring the fact that his foreign policy would have disastrous economic consequences.

BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#99144: Aug 20th 2015 at 8:11:36 PM

If you listen to Trump he is BETTER than the average Republican.

I mean:

1. He is in favour of social security

2. He approves of Abortion when there is rape

3. Feels ambivalent about spending billions of dollars stationing troops all around the world.

edited 20th Aug '15 8:11:43 PM by BAFFU

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#99145: Aug 20th 2015 at 8:13:02 PM

@Ogodei: Are you saying that a Republican President and Senate could not deliberately appoint insane justices to the Supreme Court if they wanted to make the law jus sanguinis? Or, for that matter, appoint justices who are so contemptuous of the rule of law that they will say that the Fourteenth Amendment is not a law, regardless of "how it is?"

The Supreme Court has become so politicized lately that I don't really have confidence that someone won't try to do just that if the Republicans get both the Senate and the White House.

edited 20th Aug '15 8:15:31 PM by Ramidel

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#99146: Aug 20th 2015 at 8:14:03 PM

[up][up] And in favor of deporting every Mexican. So, y'know, not really.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#99147: Aug 20th 2015 at 8:15:21 PM

Again, whether or not Trump is better on certain issues is irrelevant. The base is largely against those issues and Trump isn't going to jeopardize his reelection campaign just to oppose them.

BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#99148: Aug 20th 2015 at 8:16:17 PM

[up][up] Not all Mexican.

Only the illegal ones.

lol.

[up]

Well no, the base isn't really against those issues if you look at polling. They care more about "presentation":

edited 20th Aug '15 8:17:06 PM by BAFFU

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#99149: Aug 20th 2015 at 8:18:07 PM

The call for deportation is so high because they're Mexican, not because they're here without proper paperwork.

This is an ethnic cleansing, not enforcing immigration laws.

Oh really when?
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love

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