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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Whitewater was some sort of land deal that i believe Hillary herself had some involvement in as a lawyer (though at the time, the idea was to implicate Bill by proxy). It morphed into the Lewinsky scandal because Bill made the (by his own admission in his memoirs) dumb decision to allow a special prosecutor, and the Republicans dug up a truly vile man named Ken Starr, who ran his investigation off the rails and just turned it into an anti-Clinton fishing expedition. Clinton lied under oath about his affair with Lewinsky when being interviewed about something that was separate from Whitewater.
The moral question is still there: yes, he lied to investigators which is bad, but the investigators weren't really acting on any probable cause. In a real court, would such evidence be admissible, where police or prosecutors just kept asking a suspect about every aspect of their lives and then charged them for perjury when they ran up against something the suspect lied about even though the entire line of questioning had nothing to do with what they were suspected of?
Indeed - in a court of law, questions like that would be struck as irrelevant and/or badgering.
edited 14th Aug '15 9:41:47 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"A Letter to Donald Trump Supports With One Big Question
He’s done so as a developer in New York City, where one must be a connected insider to succeed in real estate. He is himself a member of the media elite: a reality television start who had lucrative relationships with NBC and Univision. When he has a problem with Fox News, he calls Roger Ailes on the phone!
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“Trump brags about making a lot of money in Atlantic City, then ditching the place as it slid into misery,” Michael Brendan Dougherty observed in The Week. “Believing Trump will bring America back is as foolish as believing he would bring Atlantic City back. Unlike Rubio and Bush, he's a free man—and perfectly willing to walk away and say it was your fault, but that he enjoyed the ride anyway.”
Trump is a billionaire, you say, so he won’t need to pander to special interests––unlike other Republicans, he can ignore the business lobby and stop illegal immigration.
But that makes no sense. Granted, Trump has all the money he’ll ever need, yet that’s been true for decades, and he’s continued to expend a lot of effort to earn still more money. Like other men with significant, diversified business holdings––some of them hotels and golf courses, no less!––a large supply of cheap immigrant labor is in his personal financial interests. If the business elite is for illegal immigration, he is the business elite! And he’ll face the exact same political incentives as every other elected Republican from George W. Bush to John McCain.
I think this. If Trump became a billionaire by chasing money, what makes you think he'd stop when he's president? Bill Gates has a track record of charity. He realized there was more to life than being the richest man on Earth, and started using his money for good. Until Trump starts doing that, I wouldn't trust him to have our best interests at heart when he's president.
edited 14th Aug '15 1:33:50 PM by BonsaiForest
Not to defend Donald Trump, but Trump isn't running for president for money, he's running for ego.
I don't think he'd make a good president, but at the very least, I can't imagine that he'd be totally dismissive of his legacy. If anything, he'd probably genuinely believe horrible policies are good policies and be amazed that people don't think he's the best, greatest, most classiest president ever.
Though, that doesn't sound too different from any other Republican candidate now that I think about it.
Why has nobody from the left or right brought up anything from Trump's Wikipedia page
? Because that thing is a goldmine.
Trump's immaturity started from a young age; he was expelled and sent to military school for behavioral problems. I want to see somebody ask Trump: "Mr. Trump, if you had behavioral problems as a child, then how can we expect you to be a better person as President?"
"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."let us not forget that this is the motherfucker who said that he wins by whining. How very mature.
"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."Something I've been always curious about: Is there actually a way for non-rich people to become president? Considering how much money election campaigns in your country cost, the whole system seems to favour candidates who are either rich, influential or both.
To an outsider, it looks like an Rome-style oligarchy, especially with the political dynasties like the Bushs, Clintons and Kennedys.
How far am I off?
We learn from history that we do not learn from historyCurrently, Obama's net worth is 8 million dollars and among presidents he "ranks 21st in wealth.
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No idea how much he had before becoming president though.
Obama had touted the intervention in Libya as proof of his leading from behind strategy, and now look at the country.
Libya's in a bad situation, but it still doesn't look as bad as Iraq.
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edited 14th Aug '15 9:07:00 AM by JackOLantern1337
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