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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#98276: Aug 10th 2015 at 5:00:29 PM

Iranians are chill, I just want to see all the white supremacists and neo Nazis as well see the Islamic radicals have a collective anal clenching hard enough to fuse an atom.

Obama had the birthers and I wonder what those idiots will claim.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#98277: Aug 10th 2015 at 5:43:27 PM

Yeah the Middle East reaction to a Sanders president would be to roll out another bunch of stupid conspiracy theories and then do nothing. Yes you'd have theories, but no state would actually do anything, the US is to important for the religion of the president to matter.

I imagine that the Iranian would be pretty nervous to start with but would then be like "wait this guy is the most reasonable US president ever on this stuff... Fuck my head hurts".

Short version, screams of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, followed by confusing once they see what Sanders is like, followed by heads exploding as anti-Semites simply cannot understand what is going on.

The reaction of the Israli government would be even more hilarious.

Oh and on Iran hating the US, the younger generation like US culture and media, the older generation still carry a bit of a chip on their shoulder from that time the US and UK installed a brutal authoritarian dictatorship in place of the democratic government, because fucking BP asked us to. I can't relay blame them for still being kinda pissed about that, if I'm honest.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#98278: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:00:50 PM

The CIA was flexing its muscles in the 50s and overthrowing any government they could with the flimsiest excuses.

They once overthrew a government because a fucking banana company asked them to.

It would probably make a good wacky tv comedy actually.

edited 10th Aug '15 7:01:11 PM by Canid117

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#98279: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:03:42 PM

Even the US government realizes that, in hindsight, overthrowing Iran's first prime minister was a terrible idea.

The sooner we as a species wean ourselves off the need to use oil, the better.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#98280: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:05:39 PM

We can do that right now actually. We've got the technology, had it for years.

It's just there are very powerful and very rich people hellbent on making sure it doesn't happen.

Oh really when?
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#98281: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:06:20 PM

I'm not so sure that the intelligence community believes it was a bad idea. Or at least not the defense community. The mistake was in not taking out Khomeini before he returned to the country, or in not sending in the navy to back up the shah.

probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#98282: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:20:56 PM

USA doesn't have to worry about oil anymore cause unconventional oil reserves. Just one of many reasons why oil prices has been low.

This is of course bad news for the alternate energy industry, but since technology is also being developed to burn fossil fuels more cleanly, I'll take whatever good news I can get.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#98283: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:22:57 PM

All the clean oil and clean coal isn't actually very clean. Alternative energy is still many times more friendly to the environment and all those unconventional oil reserves are unconventional for a reason. We're running out of easy to extract oil.

We've got plenty more but to get it we're going to have to do some irreparable environmental damage. Those tar sands aren't exactly easy pickings.

Oh really when?
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#98284: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:37:01 PM

Good news: It's looking like the planet can supply way more oil than we thought a little while ago.

Bad news: Getting that oil out of the planet fucks the environment over even before it gets burned.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#98285: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:39:15 PM

Yeah, we've got enough oil for easily another few centuries.

As long as you don't mind living in a Mad Max-esque hellscape.

Oh really when?
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#98286: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:43:30 PM

As much as I'd love to get the world off oil I kind of wonder what happens to the Middle East after that. Do they have any major industries that aren't related to oil?

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#98287: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:44:04 PM

Heroin and weed and like...pretty area throw rugs.

edited 10th Aug '15 7:44:36 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#98288: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:45:30 PM

[up][up] Depends if they have been investing their oil money in renewable sources.

I think Saudi Arabia did OK in that. The rest, I don't know.

I remember reading about solar farms in Saudi Arabia.

edited 10th Aug '15 7:46:02 PM by probablyinsane

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#98289: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:47:15 PM

That's not the question — many of them are already working hard on oil independence. The question is how they will handle the sudden loss of export income.

edited 10th Aug '15 7:47:36 PM by Fighteer

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probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#98290: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:55:06 PM

Renewable resources typically includes not relying so much on exports.

For example, greenhouses in the desert. The Nordics also went with the greenhouse route.

It also includes getting foreigners to buy vacation houses or even retire over there. Dubai went with that massively, but needed to be bailed out by Abu Dhabi (if I remember correctly).

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#98291: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:57:08 PM

Yeah but Dubai is literally built on slave labor and human trafficking.

Terrible city.

Oh really when?
probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#98292: Aug 10th 2015 at 8:06:11 PM

[up] 2/3rds of Saudi Arabia's workers are foreigners. tongue

I would complain more about slave worker conditions overseas for our workers IF working conditions over here were better... At the very least, they get paid (way) more over there for similar work done over here.

I have to admit though that I'm kinda glad that Saudi Arabia didn't went with exporting workers. Otherwise, there would be more competition for our workers.

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#98293: Aug 10th 2015 at 8:08:15 PM

I love this image so much. I wonder what he'd use for an actual campaign logo?

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The Mod with the Migraine
#98294: Aug 10th 2015 at 8:48:35 PM

Well, they opened up with the question "So hey guys, is anyone here NOT willing to completely support the eventual nominee?" and then Trump raised his hand.
I saw somewhere else, essentially all of the Republican candidates think candidate Trump is a horrible option for the Republican party, yet they're all willing to support him if he wins the nomination. Because winning is more important than their vaunted conservative morals, I suppose.
Sanders looks like a great candidate, but he's not The One.
But are we absolutely sure he's not an alternate universe self of Jet Li? tongue
We really need to get out of the "this candidate, and if it's anyone else we're all doomed" mindset.
I don't think we're "doomed" if Hillary beats Bernie in the primary. I do think we'll end up moving considerably closer to Mordor if the Republicans win the Presidency.
There's no such thing as a moderate. There are those that do not know the right thing to do, and those that are too cowardly to step up and do it.
"Moderate" in American politics often refers to someone who likes positions from both parties, such as being both pro-Obamacare and pro-guns. It doesn't mean they're cowardly, just that their stance on major issues doesn't easily fall into our artificial binary of D or R.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#98295: Aug 11th 2015 at 5:29:05 AM

Argentina almost certainly murdered a guy to cover up Iranian involvement in a terrorist attack on Jews in that country.
The Argentine government almost certainly murdered a prosecutor because he was about to present in front of a judge an investigation that could link the current president with that terrorist attack.

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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#98296: Aug 11th 2015 at 5:43:52 AM

[up] Uh ... what???

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#98297: Aug 11th 2015 at 5:48:42 AM

A poster was claiming that a "supicious death" in Argentina was an assassination performed to cover up Iranian participation in this. Being from Argentina myself, I'm correcting him and saying that it was for something related to internal politics of Argentina.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#98298: Aug 11th 2015 at 6:01:53 AM

So in other words their was probably still a cover up of Iranian involvement in a terrorist attack on Argentina, and a man was murdered due to it.

The Codling of the American mind Trigger Warning, the following article contains the phrase microtrasgressions which I find to trigger feelings of extreme anyoyedness and rage in myself and therefore I assume everyone else.

[[http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2015/08/when-success-leads-to-failure/400925/ When Success Leads to Failure The pressure to achieve academically is a crime against learning.]]

edited 11th Aug '15 6:05:03 AM by JackOLantern1337

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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#98299: Aug 11th 2015 at 6:14:05 AM

[up][up] That was a bad case of the The Coroner Doth Protest Too Much, really a suicide with a gunshot to the back of the head with no powder left over on the hands of the guy who supposedly shot himself.

[up]I have mixed feelings about that while I concur that giving some warning about contents, thanks to the other tropers clearing the definition and use for me, is the right thing to do but I think that using them as an excuse to exempt from attending classes and studying material or using them as an excuse to shut down argumentation is not.

I hope I didn't interpret that correctly, but decrying stereotypes by giving examples of micro aggressions on an ad is in itself triggering? What the hell?

edited 11th Aug '15 6:14:44 AM by AngelusNox

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#98300: Aug 11th 2015 at 6:19:57 AM

[up] Same, if I ever decide to include any sort of especially graphic scenes in my writing, i.e vivid descriptions of rape, than I will probably include some kind of warning. As much as I joke about them I at least understand the purpose of trigger warnings, though apparently some groups say they are bad for a person suffering form PTSD, but I don't know enough about it. Microtrasgresions and the need to define anything as "harassment" sound like a parody of what my conservative family thinks liberals are like.

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