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Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#98226: Aug 10th 2015 at 2:30:13 PM

It was one day where two women - two black women - interrupted a public speaking event for a man who is so popular and influential among liberals that his name is known and celebrated from coast to coast.

Why on God's green earth is this perceived to be so devastating to either BLM or Sanders?

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#98227: Aug 10th 2015 at 2:32:04 PM

Because, Aprilla...

What else would we talk of? Gosh. Trump's toupee?

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#98228: Aug 10th 2015 at 2:33:14 PM

Well we could...I don't know..stop flipping out over it so much because he basically killed at Portland and is only gaining momentum.

HRC better bring her A game.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#98229: Aug 10th 2015 at 2:34:40 PM

Isnt Portland that supremely Hipster place?

I bet they only supported Sanders cuz he is not as mainstream as Hillary

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#98230: Aug 10th 2015 at 2:38:23 PM

Yeah, I was talking with my uncle about Bernie. We really need to get out of the "this candidate, and if it's anyone else we're all doomed" mindset.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#98231: Aug 10th 2015 at 2:39:29 PM

I get that it's way too early to really say but at this point with things going on do any of you think Sanders could be a serious contender or is he just the left's Donald Trump, with the caveat of actually knowing what he's talking about?

Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#98232: Aug 10th 2015 at 2:44:19 PM

I mean, yeah, pickin's is slim for lefties right now, but as long as people show up to the polls, it's gonna be okay.

If the GOP wants to do their whole SNK VS Capcom line-up, let them. My concern isn't with the Democratic nomination so much as it's a matter of people actually voting. Republicans are more organized than Democrats and other left-leaning groups, and it's really tiring hearing my left-wing and libertarian hipster buddies brag about how they're too above the system to vote or something.

Meanwhile, Agnes and Betty are going to take the nursing home gals to vote for that nice Huckabee fella because he seems like a good Christian.

edited 10th Aug '15 2:45:09 PM by Aprilla

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#98233: Aug 10th 2015 at 2:44:57 PM

Sanders is a pretty serious contender already. He's the most popular candidate of any of them, including any Republican.

Oh really when?
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#98234: Aug 10th 2015 at 2:46:35 PM

If I had to wager with whom the latino vote was going to swing for I would go with Clinton.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#98235: Aug 10th 2015 at 2:48:41 PM

[up][up]Couldn't the same be said about Donald Trump and popularity?

Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#98236: Aug 10th 2015 at 2:49:26 PM

[up][up]That's what I suspect. I'd like to hear from Latino tropers about this.

Borrowing this from Achaemenid. The article he posted earlier suggests that the average black voter favors Clinton.

EDIT: I've also heard some conservative Arkansans down here say that they wouldn't mind voting for HRC as an alternative to the Republican hopefuls. The thinking seems to go that she is a moderate response to what many Southern conservatives perceive to be a pro-corporate abandonment from many mainline Republican candidates. A lot of people down here are severely broke, and Southern conservatives are deeply suspicious of big-money influences from the right, even if those same influences support dilution of the ACA and removal of women's care facilities for religious reasons.

There's also this slightly strange belief that she'd be Bill 2.0. Southern conservatives often make an exception for Bill, and that may be a holdover from the blue dog Democrat mentality that bleeds into Southern politics.

edited 10th Aug '15 2:55:06 PM by Aprilla

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#98237: Aug 10th 2015 at 2:49:45 PM

Nah, he's still beaten out by Sanders by quite a margin. Among Republicans Trump only has like 20 something percent of the vote.

The only reason that's the majority is because there are like two dozen Republicans running.

Oh really when?
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#98238: Aug 10th 2015 at 2:51:51 PM

I wasn't talking about the general public though. Which is sort of why it was a stupid question at this point.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#98239: Aug 10th 2015 at 2:59:08 PM

At least when I spoke for my uncle, he mentioned he would likely vote Hillary. Main reasons:

  • She is a woman
  • She is famous
  • She is not a Republican

I dunno. Sounds vapid but apparently there is an allure to a female president.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#98240: Aug 10th 2015 at 3:04:00 PM

Well it is pretty glaring that we've never had one. Sanders would be the first Jewish one as well so both of the major Democratic candidates would be a first.

edited 10th Aug '15 3:04:21 PM by Kostya

Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#98241: Aug 10th 2015 at 3:05:52 PM

Strictly speaking, Sanders is an independent, but hey.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#98242: Aug 10th 2015 at 3:07:39 PM

I thought he was running as a democrat.

Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#98243: Aug 10th 2015 at 3:11:19 PM

Just looked it up. You're right.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#98244: Aug 10th 2015 at 3:13:27 PM

Dr. King's thoughts on the "white moderate" would be good for those disparaging the BLM activists for not having the proper timing, though at the same time they definitely could have thought that through a little better, even if it is wrong for white allies to dictate what time is "right."

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#98245: Aug 10th 2015 at 3:13:55 PM

Jewish?!

AHAHAHAHA! Oh, God, that should make for some fun times in foreign policy! Go, Sanders, go!

[up]There's no such thing as a moderate. There are those that do not know the right thing to do, and those that are too cowardly to step up and do it. The duty of the former is to educate themselves, think hard, and take an option. The duty of the latter is to get off their butts and do it.

edited 10th Aug '15 3:16:24 PM by TheHandle

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
EruditeEsotericist Since: May, 2015
#98246: Aug 10th 2015 at 3:14:14 PM

Sanders has gained enough popularity it seems to make running as a Dem - thereby ensuring only one of he and HRC can be on the ballot paper - essential. Otherwise he'll just split the Dem vote which is the absolute last thing they need.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#98247: Aug 10th 2015 at 3:37:42 PM

I think Sanders and Hillary are both smart enough to bow out if that happens. Trump's the only candidate on either side that seems like he'd actually make a third party run.

BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#98248: Aug 10th 2015 at 3:44:16 PM

Latinos will probably vote for Hillary. And most Asians too.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#98249: Aug 10th 2015 at 3:47:59 PM

I remember hearing that Sanders gets his support mostly from white working class people, many are older and to them he evokes nostalgia for FDR, Eisenhower, and the like. Also, from comments I have seen on the internet, he seems to draw a lot of support from younger affluent white people, some of my friends will not shut up about the guy on Facebook.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#98250: Aug 10th 2015 at 3:48:57 PM

He does? I thought most of it came from Millenials.

edited 10th Aug '15 3:49:17 PM by Kostya


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