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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#98126: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:53:06 AM

Right, election date is fixed in the Constitution, opening the poll days would require an amendment, but changing the day to a federal holiday wouldn't.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#98127: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:55:29 AM

I guess the easiest way to fix that would be to make sure early voting is an option for emergency personnel.

edited 9th Aug '15 8:55:39 AM by Kostya

Reflextion from a post-sanity world (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
#98128: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:57:21 AM

I guess the easiest way to fix that would be to make sure early voting is an option for as many people as possible, but especially emergency personnel.

Agreed, with that minor addition

Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#98129: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:58:26 AM

Good point.

I still think voting should be mandatory but I know that's never going to happen.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#98130: Aug 9th 2015 at 9:08:23 AM

One, it would create an issue of "freedoms," since the argument of non-voting is that it is a statement with as much validity as voting. Two, it would be a dangerous gamble for either side of the aisle to force the habitual non-voters into the arena. Who are these people and where would their opinions take us?

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#98131: Aug 9th 2015 at 9:32:13 AM

Short of a scandal, i think Trump will stick it out to at least New Hamsphire now that he's weathered the first debate.

Doesn't Iowa primary first though?

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#98132: Aug 9th 2015 at 10:34:54 AM

Right, but Iowa's caucuses are known for not being much of a bellwether. Completely tanking in Iowa has killed campaigns, but New Hampshire is a little more indicative.

SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#98133: Aug 9th 2015 at 11:01:31 AM

Ben Carson is getting fed up.

Okay, whether you are a liberal or conservative-does anyone else think Ben Carson is probably the nicest seeming Repub. candidate? Or does he just seem like that because he's always so mellow?

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#98134: Aug 9th 2015 at 11:02:15 AM

He just seems like it. Mellow or not, he's a homophobe with no idea what he's talking about in regards to race.

Cid El Cid Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Hiding
El Cid
#98135: Aug 9th 2015 at 11:05:21 AM

Re "Voting": In my country, if you've got to work on the day of an election (federal or otherwise), your employer is required by law to give you a couple of hours so you can go vote.

We also open several polling places (?) that allow anyone to vote there regardless of where they live. This is done so people who work away from their home can vote during election day.

So maybe that's what the U.S. needs? Unless they have it already, on which case please ignore what I just said.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#98136: Aug 9th 2015 at 11:11:03 AM

[up]That's fine for most people but police officers and hospital staff can't do that because they might have an emergency that they have to take care of. In addition places like Wal-mart and Mc Donald's aren't going to be too happy if they have to shut down for a few hours.

edit: This is why I'd love it if we can get voting extended to be a three day period but that will never happen for various reasons.

edited 9th Aug '15 11:11:30 AM by Kostya

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#98137: Aug 9th 2015 at 11:13:43 AM

[up] The second, well, they can live with it.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#98138: Aug 9th 2015 at 11:15:15 AM

The problem with all these great fixes and ideas is that a lot of very rich and very influential people have spent a lot of time making sure people can't vote. It's gonna be a hell of a struggle pushing anything through.

Oh really when?
Cid El Cid Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Hiding
El Cid
#98139: Aug 9th 2015 at 11:21:50 AM

[up][up][up]Down here, emergency workers are given more time during their lunch break so they can go vote. For example, during the election of June 7th, my SO (paramedic) got two hours instead of the usual one.

I agree that sometimes it's not possible, like three years ago when we had a huge storm and floods on election day, but the government tries to do its best to get people to vote. As they say "It's not a right, it's a duty!"

In the case of non-emergency business, they're required by law to open their stores later that day OR give their employees time to go and vote during the day (while paying for that time).

For example, one of our local Wal-marts didn't open until 10:00 a.m. Not every employee went to vote (who wants to get up early on Sunday, right?), but at least they got the opportunity to do so.

Of course, this is all meaningless if they people with power don't want you to vote. A lot of our reforms happened after one of our political parties lost the presidency after 70 years. So, yeah...

edited 9th Aug '15 11:24:23 AM by Cid

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#98140: Aug 9th 2015 at 11:25:56 AM

[up][up][up]I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean.

[up][up]I know. I'm not saying this stuff will happen but it would be nice if the ideas were out there. Nobody really talks about this kind of stuff that much. At least from what I see nobody talks about it.

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#98141: Aug 9th 2015 at 11:32:59 AM

[up] Wal Mart and McDonalds will have to like it or lump it when it comes to closing to allow people to vote. Don't give them a choice in the matter.

edited 9th Aug '15 11:33:26 AM by Greenmantle

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#98142: Aug 9th 2015 at 11:54:37 AM

As long as money talks I doubt most of the people in Congress will tell them that.

ILoveDogs Since: May, 2010
#98143: Aug 9th 2015 at 12:03:14 PM

More to the point I get the feeling that corporations will just kill anyone in their way.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Shameful Display
#98144: Aug 9th 2015 at 12:59:44 PM

[up] I don't think so, I doubt the FBI and other law enforcement agencies would allow even the most influential corporations to get away with assassinating US political figures, enfaces on US, those bastard's are allowed to do basically whatever they want on foreign soil.

I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#98145: Aug 9th 2015 at 1:01:08 PM

[up] Up to a point.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#98146: Aug 9th 2015 at 1:05:05 PM

Assassination is almost never done for the purposes of explicit and specific political gains, at least in the US.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#98147: Aug 9th 2015 at 1:16:58 PM

What for, then?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#98148: Aug 9th 2015 at 1:19:00 PM

[up]Assassinations aren't done in the US period these days. So you're asking the wrong question.

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#98149: Aug 9th 2015 at 1:22:42 PM

You sure? The presidential election after the next one will be in 2020, won't it?


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