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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#98101: Aug 8th 2015 at 9:20:22 PM

Now all Boehner needs to do is get the House to back Mitch's pledge.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#98102: Aug 8th 2015 at 9:24:31 PM

The BLM thing is an important blind spot of Bernie's, though i hope they don't go too far in their protests. It's a fine line to balance, because black Americans have been voting Democrat too long with relatively little to show for it, black president aside, so their frustration is understandable, but if they are actively contemptuous of party leaders, they'll end up falling out of favor.

Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#98103: Aug 8th 2015 at 9:27:03 PM

When have black voters ever been in favor?

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#98104: Aug 8th 2015 at 9:36:59 PM

[up] I'm sure it could get worse. Do we really need both major political parties pushing for even more harsh strictures on crime, education, and similar measures that overwhelmingly punish minorites? That said, I agree, Bernie needs to do something to address the issue. I understand that he thinks his economic reforms will help minorities (and they will) but he hasn't said anything I'm aware of about other sources of disparity in the US.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#98105: Aug 8th 2015 at 9:42:01 PM

Well as a woman, I can tell you flat out I know that neither party gives a damn about me or considers me a valuable vote.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#98106: Aug 8th 2015 at 9:42:10 PM

What exactly would a President have the power to do in regards to non-economic disparity? I've never been clear on that.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#98107: Aug 8th 2015 at 9:45:42 PM

Send the 101st in to kick people in the face? Maybe?

I dunno actually.

Oh really when?
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#98108: Aug 8th 2015 at 9:47:57 PM

[up]x3 Do you think that would change if Hillary was elected?

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#98109: Aug 8th 2015 at 9:56:00 PM

Do more of what Obama's been doing on the executive front (like having DOJ go out and take names of especially crappy police departments). You could also advocate legislation which would encourage wide-scale policing reforms, sentencing reforms, decriminalize possession of the tamer drugs (or all drugs) at the federal level.

There's much that could be done, and now is the moment when the black community has more visibility and more sympathy than it's had in decades, and a chance to make real progress, which could be squandered if the movement gets carried away on its own (deserved) sense of outrage.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#98110: Aug 8th 2015 at 10:05:55 PM

I must lament how absolutely none of the contenders seem to have any clue on what to do foreign policy-wise...

Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#98111: Aug 8th 2015 at 10:07:34 PM

Just because Hilary is a woman doesn't mean she gives a damn about women or any of her administration will.

There are Jewish Holocaust deniers out there.

She stands with Planned Parenthood. Good. That's a start.

But she is from the same state as me. She has been in a position of influence before. She was the governor's wife and the first lady. She hasn't changed much.

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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#98112: Aug 8th 2015 at 11:26:21 PM

Donald Trump claims he fired his top campaign advisor; of course the other guy claims he quit.

Donald Trump's campaign said Saturday it has fired top political adviser Roger Stone — who promptly denied being let go and insisted he had quit. Stone's disassociation from the Trump operation highlights the campaign's seeming lack of veteran political advisers, even as the 2016 season is ramping up in earnest. And the dispute opens a window into two different factions of the campaign: one side that wants to maintain Trump's high visibility by capitalizing on his public feuds and bombastic rhetoric, and another that wants to pull the candidate toward more disciplined political strategy.

The episode caps a tumultuous few weeks for Trump's presidential campaign, which recently cut ties with two men accused of writing inflammatory Facebook posts. Trump, who is currently leading national polls, delivered an explosive performance at the first GOP debate in Cleveland on Thursday, and went on to make inflammatory comments about Fox News host Megyn Kelly in an interview on CNN on Friday night.

"Mr. Trump fired Roger Stone last night. We have a tremendously successful campaign and Roger wanted to use the campaign for his own personal publicity. He has had a number of articles about him recently and Mr. Trump wants to keep the focus of the campaign on how to Make America Great Again," a campaign spokesperson said in a statement. Stone, however, told CNN that he "categorically denies" being fired, and provided what he said was his resignation letter. "Unfortunately, the current controversies involving personalities and provocative media fights have reached such a high volume that it has distracted attention from your platform and overwhelmed your core message. With this current direction of the candidacy, I no longer can remain involved in your campaign," the letter to Trump says.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#98114: Aug 9th 2015 at 12:24:11 AM

Bah. Tired of the Trump show.

PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#98115: Aug 9th 2015 at 12:45:58 AM

Get used to the Trump Show. It's your new god for however long Trump can keep it up.

probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#98116: Aug 9th 2015 at 2:06:15 AM

I can understand why Bernie thinks it's better to focus on fixing stuff via economics, rather than via race. There are minorities who can not only do well, but dominate something. For example, Asian Americans have been complaining that universities limit their numbers.

If Bernie intends to make the tax system more transparent (less loopholes), like how the Nordics do it. Plus streamline benefit transfers and well ya know... pay down government debt, then yeah - he may be able to do just as much to address inequality.

Still though, he will need (economic) connections; otherwise, it's going to be like Rome's current mayor (who though is squeaky clean) keeps being stone-walled. Was reminded of the historical tidbit about how Julius (or was it Augustus) Caesar promised bankers they wouldn't be proscribed; otherwise, they'd just leave with the money.

Proscription basically means stripped of property. Used to pay off (war) debts and clear the govt. of political enemies.

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#98117: Aug 9th 2015 at 7:52:31 AM

Short of a scandal, i think Trump will stick it out to at least New Hamsphire now that he's weathered the first debate. Beyond that belongs to the question of whether he has actual primary viability, which i'm still not convinced of (since we'll quickly lose all but three of the non-trump candidates, one of whom is likely to gather more support).

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#98118: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:00:40 AM

What scandal could tank Trump's campaign? His fans would just brush it off.

Mopman43 Since: Nov, 2013
#98119: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:01:20 AM

Getting caught in bed with a Clinton. Either one would do.

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#98120: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:12:42 AM

Why not both?

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#98121: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:23:10 AM

As I said, I have no faith in Trump's staying power, and think once voting starts he'll quickly be jetisoned.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#98122: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:28:22 AM

Though he may well just keep running as a third party, he has the money and the ego to do it.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#98123: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:35:47 AM

So this was linked in the Race thread. I definitely like Sanders stance on racial justice issues but there's another aspect I want to bring up that's a bit more general. Specifically some of the parts under political violence:

  • We need to make Election Day a federal holiday to increase voters’ ability to participate.
  • Every American over 18 must be registered to vote automatically, so that students and working people can make their voices heard at the ballot box.

Finally, a candidate that actually supports those things. I'm really annoyed by the fact that nobody seems to like the idea of making voting a federal holiday.

TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#98124: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:42:43 AM

Clinton also favors the automatic registration thing. But yes, Election Day should absolutely be a federal holiday where basically the only people working are in emergency services or whatnot.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#98125: Aug 9th 2015 at 8:46:34 AM

Even that problem could be solved by extending it over multiple days but that would be a lot harder to implement.


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