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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#97951: Aug 6th 2015 at 7:26:27 PM

Yeah. Jeb is showing absolutely no charisma.

Which is inconvenient, because if Jeb falls early, Scott Walker becomes the default candidate for the Republican Party. And Walker honestly scares me.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#97952: Aug 6th 2015 at 7:29:00 PM

There's no way in hell America would let Trump become President.

He's pissed off entirely too many minorities, they're gonna show up in droves to stop this monster.

At least I hope so. He wins and I'm straight up leaving the country. No way in hell I could survive here with him in charge.

Oh really when?
BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#97953: Aug 6th 2015 at 7:29:10 PM

Actually they sort of landed him a strong punch in this last question.

Trump's crime?

Being too much like a democrat.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#97954: Aug 6th 2015 at 7:39:07 PM

I don't think that calling Trump a RINO is going to damage him. He's got too much of the insane hard-right fanbase behind him, and he's got enough stubborn bullheadedness to simply ignore inconsistencies.

Being able to make a graceful U-turn, or more likely, a forceful one, is an important skill for a politician. Both Kerry and Romney suffered because they could be dragged down by their complete lack of spine.

The real test of the Trumpster is if he gets the nomination, at which point he'll have to go to the general public with everything he said about immigrants around his neck. Knowing Trump, he'll probably double-down and get quashed by the minority vote.

edited 6th Aug '15 7:40:58 PM by Ramidel

AngelicBraeburn from Eccentric California Since: Jan, 2015
#97955: Aug 6th 2015 at 7:41:36 PM

[up][up] That weak clap that followed that question must have stung.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#97956: Aug 6th 2015 at 7:46:09 PM

Being civil could mostly be defined to "attack the point not the person." Like "neoclassical economics is bananas, and here's why," versus "neoclassical economists are like dried turds on the highway."

BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#97957: Aug 6th 2015 at 7:54:48 PM

Oh rubio delivers a zinger

"god has blessed republicans with many good candidates and the democrats cant find one"

lol.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#97958: Aug 6th 2015 at 7:55:08 PM

Kasich and Christie are killing it. Cruz needs to disappear. Rand is sinking, Jeb is sinking, Rubio is a bump on the log, Trump was inconsistent, as was Huckabee, Carson is sinking, and Walker was a bump on the log.

Know-age Since: May, 2010
#97959: Aug 6th 2015 at 7:57:40 PM

Not blindly hating your enemies is for your own good, not for the sake of 'civility.'

It's not about being nice so much as it is about being understanding. If you sincerely think the only thing motivating someone is malice, you don't understand them and will just embarrass yourself by trying to psychoanalyze them.

I read a book the other day that made an argument amounting to "the Protestant and Catholic disagree on the issue of contraception because one believes in organizing society based on empirical social planning and the other wants to base it on religious principles." Should probably be rephrased as "religious vs secular" for 2015 but whatever. It still makes infinitely more sense than "I guess They must just really hate women or something, I guess..."

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#97960: Aug 6th 2015 at 8:00:21 PM

But here's the thing, it is based on malice and bigotry.

It has been for a long time and they've done an incredible job of convincing people it isn't. Dog whistles and Reagan have done wonders at enforcing that.

These aren't people who just happen to believe in a different economic theory. These are greedy and hateful people out to make money for themselves and hurt groups they don't like.

edited 6th Aug '15 8:01:19 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#97961: Aug 6th 2015 at 8:02:14 PM

So apparently they only thought to ask about "the veterans" because someone from the audiance reminded them? Can anyone confirm?

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#97962: Aug 6th 2015 at 8:03:00 PM

Kasich, Christie, Trump: Good tier.

Everyone else: Bad tier.

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#97963: Aug 6th 2015 at 8:06:05 PM

Trump was not good tier. He still gave no specifics.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#97964: Aug 6th 2015 at 8:17:05 PM

But pretty much every word he said was an applause line, as far as that crowd was concerned.

storyyeller More like giant cherries from Appleloosa Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
More like giant cherries
#97965: Aug 6th 2015 at 8:32:03 PM

I really hope that Trump becomes the nominee. That would be hilarious. Plus there's no way he could win a general election.

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Know-age Since: May, 2010
#97966: Aug 6th 2015 at 8:32:19 PM

all applause lines, no substance, when attacked just denies everything and makes counteraccusations

seems like he's set

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#97967: Aug 6th 2015 at 8:34:45 PM

Was there anything that audience didn't clap for?

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#97968: Aug 6th 2015 at 8:35:04 PM

if we were rating them on ideas they would all be in bat shit crazy tier.

[up] democrats.

edited 6th Aug '15 8:35:33 PM by BAFFU

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#97969: Aug 6th 2015 at 8:43:39 PM

[up]As I said, I liked Kasich's response to the Medicaid question. It's an outta-the-park hit, with a solidly conservative response to Tea Party lunacy.

edited 6th Aug '15 8:43:47 PM by Ramidel

BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#97970: Aug 6th 2015 at 8:51:01 PM

yea he had the best performance by far.

probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#97971: Aug 6th 2015 at 8:52:02 PM

Trump just passed Bernie on betting odds.

Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.
BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#97972: Aug 6th 2015 at 8:56:03 PM

Not even republicans like lenders.

Go figure...

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#97973: Aug 6th 2015 at 10:53:00 PM

Re: civility:

Saying Republicans of being racist and wanting to increase the wealth of the rich at the expense of the poor doesn't necessarily violate civility. Claiming, like Fighteer did a couple days back, that Republicans want to:

leave wealthy white people alone to have their drug-fueled child sex parties or whatever.

That kinda does.

edited 6th Aug '15 11:00:53 PM by RavenWilder

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#97974: Aug 6th 2015 at 11:27:58 PM

Yeah that's the British Conservative Party (recently it's been coming out that there's was a serious child abuse thing happening quite possibly at the heart of goverment back in the Thatcher days, it was all hushed up though and is only coming out now, including reports of Conservative Party conference having drug filled parties with under-age male prostitutes).

Still that does mean Fighter's suggestion might not be entirely hyperbolic, it's certainly not on this side of the pond.

Plus Fighter is allowed to violate civility, he's a mod. tongue

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#97975: Aug 6th 2015 at 11:39:27 PM

[up] Not that members of Labour or the Liberals probably weren't involved in the same parties or similar activities. Or Businessmen and Trade Union Leaders.

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