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BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#97801: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:25:11 PM

Yes but:

Rise of ISIS is favorable to the U.S geopolitically in the long run because it weakens Shia elements in the middle east (sorry for the realpolitik).

Its not just unemployment rates but steady job growth.

Citizens United is something he fought against (and lost).

He managed to appoint two of the most liberal justices ever. (Specially Sotomayor)

During his presidency the Republicans became increasingly unelectable.

etc...

Truth is that the bad stuff that happened wasn't really that bad. And the good stuff that happened was very good.

The world and the U.S is definitely a better place than it was in 2008.

edited 5th Aug '15 8:26:57 PM by BAFFU

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#97802: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:27:04 PM

Steady job growth of the wrong kind of jobs. Unless I'm mistaken we're not getting enough high paying jobs that require a college degree which is why young people can't afford anything.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#97803: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:28:38 PM

Young people can't afford anything because wages in general are so low.

Young people shouldn't be looking for high paying careers that require degrees and shit. They should be working part time jobs and blowing all their paycheck on petty nonsense. Like shoes or food or whatever the kids are into these days.

Oh really when?
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#97804: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:30:03 PM

It took me longer than it should have to realize your second paragraph was sarcasm.

BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#97805: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:30:26 PM

yes but look at what happened to Europe.

People fail to realize that the recovery would have been destroyed by a more "moderate" president.

I mean Republicans almost made the U.S government default ala ECB because they didn't want to spend money.

edited 5th Aug '15 8:31:57 PM by BAFFU

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#97806: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:31:26 PM

@Gracon You for serious?

I read an article that the 40-hour-a-week idea of full-time employment was a crock because people barely do three hours of work on any given day or something.

People wake up, go to work, then come home and spend their money on fleeting luxuries that mostly serve just to give them a reason to wake up the next day.

That's just the modern routine apparently.

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#97807: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:32:10 PM

Eh, yes and no.

People, young people especially, need more disposable income. They need to be out buying useless things for the sake of just buying useless things. But nobody has money for that.

That's why wages do need to be around $15 an hour. Imagine how much money business would make because people just have some spending money.

And that article is bullshit. I've worked 40 hour weeks at minimum wage dives, you do work every one of the those 40 hours and then some. It's hell and you get little to nothing to show for it.

People deserve to have useless frivolities and the ability to just go spend money and have fun.

edited 5th Aug '15 8:34:55 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#97808: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:33:09 PM

no one is questioning the premise.

What I am saying is that, seriously, we could very well still be at 9 unemployment plus all the other aggravating factors.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#97809: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:34:48 PM

I don't really think that kids NEED to buy their entertainment. I could get by on Youtube videos and free Internet games. :p

Also since I work at the library I can read all the books I want for free.

I could, but I still pay for some fun. If I can't find a way to get it free...

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#97810: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:35:58 PM

I recall reading an article that was basically chewing out Millenials for not getting married and buying expensive shit like cars and houses. Every time I see one of those I want to go "Hey, old people. Maybe we'd be able to afford this shit if you didn't break the fucking economy and load us up with tons of debt!" Seriously though, we need to just pay off the student loans of every single person in this country. That alone would give the economy a tremendous boost.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#97811: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:36:23 PM

I read an article that the 40-hour-a-week idea of full-time employment was a crock because people barely do three hours of work on any given day or something.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...NO.

Seriously, I work 40+ hours a week of actual work in a grocery store deli for my recreationaluseless items. All 40 of those hours actually working with maybe an hour or two a week on my phone because addicting internet.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#97812: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:37:51 PM

Wage progress and race progress under Obama's watch too. We're starting to see a return to a living minimum wage, and the Ferguson protests have finally kept the spotlight on police brutality.

Edit: it depends on the job. For some people, like small business owners, there aren't enough hours in the week to get all of their work done. It's mostly middle-management and administration jobs that have a lot of fiddle-around time. Some retail if you're front-end and it's a slow day.

edited 5th Aug '15 8:39:22 PM by Ogodei

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#97813: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:38:02 PM

Thank you for reminding me, I keep forgetting that email the library got saying that because I'm a government employee I could have my student debt forgiven.

I see a lot of offers like that, but I never TRUST them.

As for buying expensive shit, I don't really need to. As long as the parents don't mind me still living in this house...

And as for MARRIAGE, ha ha, why would anybody ever want to do that to themselves.

edited 5th Aug '15 8:38:22 PM by Keybreak

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#97814: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:38:03 PM

I could definitely believe that people working 9-5 office jobs don't do 8 hours worth of work.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#97815: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:38:57 PM

Office jobs no, minimum wage jobs and most others? Yes and then some.

And they get almost no money to show for it and all their time taken away.

Oh really when?
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#97816: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:40:59 PM

For a while I preferred a job that pays based on work done instead of time spent. Would feel better earned...

And really, besides government benefits why would anyone want to get married? Being with one person your whole life...or not, since close to half of all marriages end in divorces.

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#97817: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:41:43 PM

Because love is a strange thing.

Oh really when?
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#97818: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:42:54 PM

Well I want to get married but that would have to wait until we're financially secure. Who knows when that will be though.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#97819: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:43:15 PM

Yeah, another 40 hours worker here. Depending on the situation, half or all my check goes to paying bills. I can't afford to not work 40 hours if I want to maintain the life I have.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#97820: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:44:29 PM

[up][up][up]Either that, or you got forced into an arranged marriage in some third world country and there's no way to get out of it short of the cessation of either party.

edited 5th Aug '15 8:44:45 PM by kkhohoho

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#97821: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:48:18 PM

Marriage is just a human invention used to force commitment anyway. tongue If two (or more) people didn't see some kind of official bond between themselves then they'd stray toward other people, "destabilizing the family dynamic" or whatever.

Including too all of those financial details.

And without that human desire for companionship and procreation people probably wouldn't need it at all.

edited 5th Aug '15 8:49:56 PM by Keybreak

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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#97822: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:48:26 PM

So with the Jade Helm thing above, not only do we have people building IEDs here in the states with intent to use them against our military, but one of the bases in the area had a drive-by shooting. No one was injured, but they also haven't caught the two white guys responsible for it.

That stuff really pisses me off. They are committing treasonnote  and yet they'll probably receive lighter sentences than any random minority pulled over for speeding.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#97823: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:48:58 PM

Welcome to America.

Oh really when?
Mopman43 Since: Nov, 2013
#97824: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:51:13 PM

Well, I can't work 40 hours a week, because then I would be a full-time employee and eligible for benefits. But I do work 39 hours a week. And I'm not on my phone either.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#97825: Aug 5th 2015 at 8:52:29 PM

What's wrong with benefits?

If I could work only 25 hours a week with benefits, I don't know why I'd want to pass that up. :p Besides the fact that I'd still be living in Texas...

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