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#97601: Aug 3rd 2015 at 9:48:32 AM

Took a look at the betting sites. Clinton's in the lead. The next two highest are Republican with Bernie in 4th place.

Unless Bernie can get pass Bush and Walker, it's safer for the Democrats to make Clinton their nominee.

Trump is in 6th place - why.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#97602: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:03:28 AM

Clinton has begun advertising in New Hampshire and Iowa. Her aim is to lay out her life story, explain her background, especially emphasizing the hard scrabble life of her mother. Concerned that the "tough" approach of her last campaign didn't motivate voters who didn't see her as representing the common American, Clinton focused instead on her accomplishments with the Children's Defense Fund and her family history, ultimately aiming to present herself as the "grandmother-in-chief".

edited 3rd Aug '15 10:03:40 AM by Parable

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#97603: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:06:54 AM

[up][up]I'm surprised Trump is that high, to be honest.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#97604: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:12:40 AM

He's still winning all the polls, as little as those mean right now.

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#97605: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:25:17 AM

That's republican primary vote only polls, and he's only getting 20% of them. In a race with a reasonable number of candidates he's be coming in very low in the ranking, but because so many Republicns are running the vote is split massively.

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PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#97606: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:27:59 AM

(Forbes, Stand Collender) Chance of a Government Shutdown this fall rises to 60%

Basically Republicans haven't been using their time to effectively pass budget bills, and not enough of the government will have stable funding. As well, on top of it, Republicans want to do two items the President is threatening to veto:

  • Underfunding domestic security agencies to overfund the Pentagon
  • Defund Planned Parenthood.

Skycobra51 A suitable case for treatment from The US of A Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Only knew I loved her when I let her go
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#97607: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:47:37 AM

I love the "overfund the Pentagon line" because clearly Defense needs to be cut, but ignore the fact that Social Security and the saftey net takes up more than half the budget, and nobody apart from the baby boomers are gonna see a damn penny of it.

But we can't cut that.

The old folks at home would revolt. I can see it now, hordes of elderly people flooding Washington. tongue

Defund Planned Parenthood?

why not tax them instead?

All that money they make from the sales of dead fetuses, could go to more useful things like say Welfare.

On another note, who cares if they underfund Home Security, they are too intrusive with their surveillance, they profile, tap phone lines, and monitor your internet.tongue

edited 3rd Aug '15 10:53:33 AM by Skycobra51

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#97608: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:49:49 AM

Because there are no fetuses being sold?

And we can't, as a population, survive any more cutting of safety nets.

Oh really when?
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#97609: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:51:10 AM

I love the "overfund the Pentagon line" because clearly Defense needs to be cut,

Seeing as the Pentagon itself has said it doesn't need or want the money Congress is spending I@m gonna go with yes, yes it does need to be cut.

ignore the fact that Social Security and the saftey net takes up more than half the budget

Well yeah that's kinda what goverment exists to do, to provide help to its citizenry in times of trouble and old age.

why not tax them instead, all that money they make from the sales of dead fetuses,

Planned Parenthood sells dead fetusus? It makes money from dead fetuses? Got a source on that?

edited 3rd Aug '15 10:51:36 AM by Silasw

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#97610: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:51:30 AM

There is a difference between "Funding defense as it is needed" and "Putting money into every orifice in the pentagon so it can fall down towards the industry weather they like it or not."

Overfunding the pentagon is not for Defense. Its for the Defense industry.

edited 3rd Aug '15 10:51:56 AM by 3of4

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Zendervai Since: Oct, 2009
#97611: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:51:55 AM

The American military periodically sends someone to Congress to ask for less funding. It's part of the reason they have so many random experiments and projects going on. They're given the funding and they have to use it.

When the people being overfunded say they're being overfunded, I think it's not bias.

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#97612: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:52:45 AM

Yeah, the military industrial complex benefits from all this bullshit. Not our actual military.

If we cared about our soldiers we wouldn't be building the F-35 and we've have abandoned the M4 a long time ago.

Oh really when?
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A nice butterfly
#97613: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:55:06 AM

They sell the fetuses to THE MEAT MARKET. And they FORCE us to EAT IT MAN. THE SIGNS ARE THERE.

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#97614: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:56:19 AM

[up] Baby, the other, other white meat.[lol]

I want my babyback,babyback,babyback ribs.tongue

Why not eat babies?

It could've solved Englands Irishman problem or so the Author of A Modest Proposal once wrote.

[down][down] Dude relax, Stop taking things too seriously, lifes too damn short to get bent out of shape over every little thing.

Besides I was responding to the post above me.

edited 3rd Aug '15 12:24:10 PM by Skycobra51

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#97615: Aug 3rd 2015 at 10:56:31 AM

Sigh.

http://www.epi.org/publication/social_security_is_sustainable/

And Planned Parenthood doesn't make money off of the donation of fetal tissue to research. Money has to change hands there because processing, storage, and transportation aren't free, but that's like accusing a charity that mails care packages to soldiers of turning a profit because they have to pay UPS to do their stuff.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#97616: Aug 3rd 2015 at 11:15:13 AM

[up][up]Try not to cite a famous troll as an actual source. Unless you're trolling, of course.

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#97617: Aug 3rd 2015 at 11:32:46 AM

Social Security and Medicare taking up over half the budget is irrelevant. Those are transfer payments. That's just distribution of funds within the system; it is not, in and of itself, spending so much as it is allowing the government to spend instead of the elderly.

Unless you're saying that the elderly shouldn't get health care.

So, you know, don't make bad shallow arguments like that.

It is true that the US government is basically an insurance company with an army though, sure.

Mopman43 Since: Nov, 2013
#97618: Aug 3rd 2015 at 12:54:04 PM

[up] That sounds terrifying.

"Oh, you're behind on your payments? Don't worry, we'll just send in the marines to collect from you. Forcibly."

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#97619: Aug 3rd 2015 at 12:59:50 PM

[up] Isn't that what the IRS is for?tongue

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#97620: Aug 3rd 2015 at 1:06:42 PM

Yes, that is exactly what the IRS is for. The basis for the legitimacy of any government is its ability to compel payment of taxes by force.

edited 3rd Aug '15 1:09:43 PM by Fighteer

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#97621: Aug 3rd 2015 at 1:08:39 PM

Edit: Is it just me or is the youtube command broken O.o Link

[[youtube:FJ_DgfhGJW4]]

edited 3rd Aug '15 1:12:56 PM by 3of4

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#97622: Aug 3rd 2015 at 1:10:02 PM

...and I guess some IRS Agents are armed?

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#97623: Aug 3rd 2015 at 1:11:01 PM

I don't think so, but they have the ability to request warrants in federal court, whereby the actual armed folks come calling.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#97624: Aug 3rd 2015 at 1:12:07 PM

And before the IRS, they really did use the military to enforce taxes. See George Washington and the Whiskey Rebellion.

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#97625: Aug 3rd 2015 at 1:21:43 PM

[up][up][up] Interestingly enough, the IRS criminal investigation unit are allowed firearms. Who knew?

And if I remember correctly the IRS was armed during prohibition, or at least the branch that became the ATF did.

Can't blame'em really, moutain folk don't take kindly to revenuers...

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