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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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But seriously if they want Bay they can have him, he's an untalented hack.
Yeah I remember it causing the administration a great deal of awkwardness when the Libyans apologized for failing to protect the embassy from a terrorist attack,at the time they were still using the B.S protest thing. Seriously what was the point of that. I for one, and I think most of the American people understand that you cannot prevent all terrorist attacks,especially on outlying points like diplomatic compounds. But why did Obama cling to that dam protest thing for so long? It served no purpose, was found to be false, and made the administration look bad, though they called it a terrorist attack after a few days.
edited 29th Jul '15 5:05:58 AM by JackOLantern1337
I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.Aw, so Rand Paul published that video of him hacking up the tax code for nothing? Poor Paulites. Seriously, this should be yet another classic example of "as ye sow, so shall ye reap" for the Libertarians. It won't, though.
As for Michael Bay, whether you believe him to be a hack or not, he has tapped into the psyche of the movie-going public in a way that few other directors have, and has a lot of money to show for it. If that makes him some kind of failure, then heck, I'd be happy to join him in failure.
edited 29th Jul '15 5:29:55 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"A while ago, I read a body language analysis
that asserted that Paul is likely to run as an independent if he loses the Republican candidacy. I'm not a fan of the man, but I don't know if I'd give him credit for being quite that dumb.
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I'm not exactly surprised, after all, the most it can mean for Libertarians is that Paul wasn't enough of a Libertarian.
And seriously, a Benghazi movie? Well, time to continue my long-running trend of not watching Michael Bay films.
edited 29th Jul '15 9:22:08 AM by Balmung
Paul has the same problem his dad does; their supporters are the definition of a vocal minority and any thoughts of them winning a single state is frankly a pipe dream.
Rand is more of a realist than Ron, so he does have a better shot of going somewhere, but he'll likely be blocked by the massive holes in his strategic logic, such as his attempt to appeal to minorities and the young while also believing that the Civil Rights Act went too far.
Someone socially libertarian, perhaps. The Democratic base could be willing to swallow a pro-2nd Amendment candidate (in many areas, the democrats have no choice but to field such a candidate), and of course we could buy into free loves, legal drugs, and a non-interventionist foreign policy, but the whole "people have to be free to discriminate" thing would not fly, nor would libertarian tendencies towards the gold standard and "freedom of contract" (i.e. total deregulation of business).
Aside from foreign policy, no (especially because there's still an isolationist wing in the Republican base). See, "freedom to discriminate" is the kicker, since legally there would be no prohibitions on this or that, culturally you could stamp them out by letting polite society ostracize their practitioners.
@Jack
Hey, I *like* The Last Ship
I mean not as high culture but as quick 45 min entertainment...
Yeah, not exactly a secret that Bay gets some serious support from the Military Industrial Complex. That said, how skewed the movie is probably depends largely on whether the book it's based on is skewed or even-handed... or possibly just not concerned with the attack itself, but the 6 soldiers it follows.
As for the protest angle, a big part of that, as I recall, was that the attack happened while a legitimate protest happened outside the embassy, where the terrorists that committed the attack took advantage of security forces already having their hands full.
If not for the video, on-site security may have been more ready to counter, or intercepted them prior to launching the attack, rather than getting caught with their pants down and having considerable trouble discerning who may have been there in legitimate protest and who was just rebel-rallying to give the attackers time to set up.
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
In short, it's right up Bay's preferred alley of "Behold my spunking death-cock" fare, from the sound of things.
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"On Bay and the Benghazi movie:
Even if you relegate the story to a compact narrative about the combatants involved on both sides, you're inevitably making a political narrative. Conscious efforts to make a story apolitical are, by their nature, a priori political devices. I understand why people keep saying that, but I strongly disagree with the sentiment just like I did when it was applied to Zero Dark Thirty and Black Hawk Down.
As for Bay himself, it's fun to hate on him, but his film making techniques are impressive and perfectly respectable.
There's a reason why the Transformers movie franchise is taught in film schools.
While his technical skills may be impressive, there's no debating that he prefers mindless pablum and Stuff Blowing Up, the latter by his own admission
. So while he's a good pick for summer blockbusters, his last attempt (albeit via Producer, rather than Directing) at a thought-provoking concept was... shall we say "mixed".
edited 29th Jul '15 2:54:43 PM by ironballs16
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"

My brother will be devastated to hear Rand Paul is having trouble with his campaign. But my brother has never been the wisest of libertarians IMO.
As for the Benghazi movie, I'd be extremely interested to find out who's bankrolling and executive producing such a movie. It sounds rather contrary to the usual Hollywood stuff, and a little bit too soon. Then again, how long actually passed between Zero Dark Thirty and Osama's death? Or between 9/11 and Flight93 (or whatever that movie was)? I think the timeline between (event) and (movie of the event) has gotten smaller over the years.
That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw